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    Quinnipac poll: Jeb Bush 42%, Hillary Clinton 41%

    It actually happened.

    Hillary has never lost a single general election matchup poll to any republican heading into the 2016 election. Until now!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tial_race.html

    And considering most polls historically skew in favor of the democrat, I have to think its even bigger than this. The 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, and 2008 elections all underestimated republican support. 2012 was an outlier in that it actually underestimated democrat support.

    The last time the white house was an open seat, in 2008, you had McCain dominating the polls vs Obama until early 2007. Obama began to take a lead and turn the polls around.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...225.html#polls

    This election, you have Hillary dominating Jeb Bush in the polls until early 2015, where Jeb seem to be turning the polls around. Very interesting.


















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    1992 election:
    All polls overestimated Clinton's lead
    http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/pub...n/82/82045.pdf

    1996 election:
    pew center poll: Dole 38%, results Dole 40.7%
    http://www.people-press.org/1996/11/...le-38-perot-9/

    1996 Election:
    All polls except Zogby overestimated the Clinton lead
    http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/pub...n/82/82045.pdf

    2000 election: Only 10 of 15 polls underestimated Bush43's share of the popular vote. average poll: Bush43 46.4%, results were Bush43 47.8%
    http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp200...olls-2000.html

    2004 election: average poll was Bush43 +1.5%, results were Bush +2.4%
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...kerry-939.html

    2008 election: average poll was Obama +7.6%, results were Obama +7.3%
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...225.html#polls

    2012 election: average poll was Obama +0.7%, results were Obama +3.9%
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html
    Last edited by Grummgug; 2015-08-01 at 02:50 AM.

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    Bullshit poll is misinterpreted, more at 11.

    Do news "sources" even understand ho polling works?

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    Hillary has a lot of baggage including a lot of people who really dislike her. It would be so much better if the Democrats ran some unknown governor.

    Bush the Third? I don't know, too many Bushs', give someone else a chance like an unknown Republican governor.

    It's really the Republican's race to lose and you can see this in the large number of Republicans running. After 8 years of Democrat rule it's a given.
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    Bush? Why america why? Are you retarded?

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    Grummung, this might as well be a poll between you, Vyxn and Orlong. You three would have less bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Bush? Why america why? Are you retarded?
    Eh, I'd start panicking when there is more than a point between the two, honestly.

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    As a right-winger, I cannot find one single person that supports Jeb Bush in any way. This is typical media hand-to-mouth feeding, telling folks whom they should vote for.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    So it's Fox News telling us that the Republican is going to win..
    Is anyone really surprised?
    More like Fox News driving home the point that they have no idea what they're talking about.

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    Bush? Why america why? Are you retarded?
    He certainly wasn't perfect but I think George W. Bush earns more credit than he usually gets.

    I cans ee Jeb Bush win this one, unless women will all vote Hillary just ebcause she's a woman.

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    Jeb is proving that he is a terrible candidate.
    “You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass." - President Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    He certainly wasn't perfect but I think George W. Bush earns more credit than he usually gets.

    I cans ee Jeb Bush win this one, unless women will all vote Hillary just ebcause she's a woman.
    Please, please, tell me what credit G.W. Bush gets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medium9 View Post
    Please not yet another Bush-man warlord dear America. Please.
    Exactly. His blind loyalty to his brother G.W. in the Iraq invasion, made me lose all credibility that I had for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    Bush? Why america why? Are you retarded?
    Lesser of the 2 evils between him and Hilary, I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rederoin View Post
    Lesser of the 2 evils between him and Hilary, I suppose.
    That is retarded aswell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    That is retarded aswell.
    Its not like they have a choice.

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    Let's be honest, the Democrat bench is so thin, all they have to pin their hopes on is a (then) 69 year old career politician that is completely out of touch with middle-class America.
    Quote Originally Posted by nôrps View Post
    I just think you retards are starting to get ridiculous with your childish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    It's Fox News? Is that considered reliable? I mean I don't know, just the internet has taught me to consider it a joke source . . .
    Poll is an outlier, but Fox News polls are typically not out of the mainstream (if anyone bothered to check).

    Polls and opinion shows are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rederoin View Post
    Its not like they have a choice.
    That thinking is why the 2 party system will never get fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    Please, please, tell me what credit G.W. Bush gets?
    No child left behind?
    Exactly. His blind loyalty to his brother G.W. in the Iraq invasion, made me lose all credibility that I had for him.
    he said that if he would have thought Iraq had WMDs, he would have invaded too (and if they didn't, he wouldn't).
    regardless he is orders of magnitude better than hillary, but then, anyone - Anyone - is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorkuus View Post
    That thinking is why the 2 party system will never get fixed.
    True, but I don't think most Americans seems to give a shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamorallo View Post
    Poll is an outlier, but Fox News polls are typically not out of the mainstream (if anyone bothered to check).

    Polls and opinion shows are two different things.
    well it is not like fox news have their own polling organisation, they farmed this out to someone, and that someone, Probably, made a fair poll.

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