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    6.2 MW BiS list. Work in progress

    Im been looking at the new drops from the current loot table from HFC and been trying to set up a BiS list.

    Feel free to give some feedback or suggestions
    With 4set i would go for something like

    Head: Tier (Kormrok)
    Shoulder: Haste + Multistrike (Hellfire High Council)
    Chest: Tier (Mannoroth)
    Legs: Tier (Gorefiend)
    Belt: Multistrike + Mastery (Archimonde)
    Gloves: Tier (Socrethar)
    Boots: Crit + Multistrike (Iron Reaver)
    Back: Crit + Spirit (Kormrok)
    Neck: Multistrike + Spirit (Mannoroth)
    Ring 1: Multistrik + Spirit (Shadow Lord Iskar)
    Ring 2: Legendary Ring / Haste + Spirit (Hellfire High Council)
    Trinket 1: Mastery + Multistrike + Spirit (Hellfire High Council) / Class trinket i could imagine for heavy AoE stacked fights.
    Trinket 2: Spirit + Leech proc (Xhulhorac)
    Main Hand: Crit + Multistrike Sword (Hellfire High Council)
    Off Hand: Crit + Multistrike (Gorefiend)
    Thats my sight on things.. I would like to hear you guys opinion on this!

    {Sidenote}
    I would post links to the items but i was not allowed due to not having posted enough!
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    Are you unaware of the varying ilvls in HFC? Because there's no way the HHC weapon would beat http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=124372/g...edar&bonus=567
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    Offpiece is chest btw. Also varying ilvls

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    i was not unaware, the secondary stats just seem pretty shitty compared to the others.

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    Thus the reason I really hate this tiered ilvl design. Optimized secondary stats are going to be beat by raw Intellect gain.

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    yea it kinda sucks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamzaqt View Post
    i was not unaware, the secondary stats just seem pretty shitty compared to the others.
    The spellpower is often reason enough to upgrade even to a weapon with Mastery. Did you use my stat weights to make this list?

    The Leech trinket is good, but the other two trinkets you mentioned aren't. The class trinket isn't even viable for PoM. You'd be better off with a Heroic Highmaul trinket.

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    Thus the reason I really hate this tiered ilvl design. Optimized secondary stats are going to be beat by raw Intellect gain.
    I think that's kind of the point, so you still have more than 1 upgrade left to go when you have 90% of the instance on farm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geodew View Post
    I think that's kind of the point, so you still have more than 1 upgrade left to go when you have 90% of the instance on farm.
    Yeah, I understand the point, its just a little frustrating. For me personally, the last tier of content in an expansion is when you get to have near perfect itemization and do ridiculous things.

    Maybe its nostalgia, I just remember playing enhance back in H ICC and having stupid high amounts of haste and loving every moment of it with the proc weapons and trinkets.

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    I mean. it is at least an attempt to address a problem, it was kind of silly having normal imp and normal BH be harder than almost the entire instance on heroic to pugs and worse off raid groups.

    Although even with normal mode or heroic mode end boss giving similar gear, entry-level heroic and mythic bosses will likely still give that similar ilvl gear much more quickly

    it would be cool if they made later mythic bosses drop items to upgrade those earlier pieces though, but I think it should be fine as is (this system would also piss off top end guilds)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bamzaqt View Post
    Im been looking at the new drops from the current loot table from HFC and been trying to set up a BiS list.

    Feel free to give some feedback or suggestions
    With 4set i would go for something like

    Head: Tier (Kormrok)725; 405Int, 339 Crit, 200 Haste
    Shoulder: Haste + Multistrike (Hellfire High Council)720; 290Int, 160Haste, 226MS
    Chest: Tier (Mannoroth)725; 405Int, 350Mast, 189MS
    Legs: Tier (Gorefiend)725; 405Int, 223Crit, 316MS
    Belt: Multistrike + Mastery (Archimonde)735; 333Int, 146Mast, 298MS
    Gloves: Tier (Socrethar)725; 304Int, 168Haste, 237MS
    Boots: Crit + Multistrike (Iron Reaver)720; 290 Int, 234Crit, 152MS
    Back: Crit + Spirit (Kormrok)720; 217Int, 114Crit, 176 Spirit
    Neck: Multistrike + Spirit (Mannoroth)730; 238Int, 91MS, 227Spirit
    Ring 1: Multistrik + Spirit (Shadow Lord Iskar)725; 228Int, 100MS, 204Spirit


    Trinket 1: Mastery + Multistrike + Spirit (Hellfire High Council) / Class trinket i could imagine for heavy AoE stacked fights.???
    Trinket 2: Spirit + Leech proc (Xhulhorac)730; 525Spirit
    Main Hand: Crit + Multistrike Sword (Hellfire High Council)720; 116Int, 134Crit, 2214SP, 87MS
    Off Hand: Crit + Multistrike (Gorefiend)725; 228Int, 93Crit, 210MS
    Thats my sight on things.. I would like to hear you guys opinion on this!

    {Sidenote}
    I would post links to the items but i was not allowed due to not having posted enough!
    In bold I put ilvls and total stats from each piece you suggested. I used mythic values ofc.

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    BiS list for Tier 18 - Courtesy of Spotnick

    Helm Mask of the Hurricane's Eye Kormrok
    Neck Locket of Unholy Reconstitution Mannoroth
    Shoulder Mantle of the Hurricane's Eye Xhul'horac
    Cloak Drape of Beckoned Souls Socrethar
    Chest Tunic of the Soulbinder Socrethar
    Bracer Bloodcult Bracers Kilrogg Deadeye
    Gloves Fistwraps of the Hurricane's Eye Socrethar
    Belt Waistwrap of Banishment Archimonde
    Legs Legwraps of the Hurricane's Eye Gorefiend
    Boots Jungle Assassin's Footpads Trash
    Ring 1 Etheralus, the Eternal Reward Legendary Quest
    Ring 2 Ring of Foul Temptation Shadow-Lord Iskar
    Trinket 1 Unstable Felshadow Emulsion Xhul'horac
    Trinket 2 Demonic Phylactery / Intuition's Gift Socrethar / Kilrogg
    Weapon Gavel of the Eredar Archimonde
    Off-Hand Gibbering Madness Gorefiend

    I took the aforementioned information from here

    Now ill do some math for total stats gained. Note: the 1st trinket OP is talking about doesn't exist soo yea total values for both only use 1 trinket and its UFE. I also ignored the 2nd ring slot as the stats change on your legendary ring as you level it up. I will also calculate the total stat value using Geodew's stat weights.

    OP's:

    Int: 3,459
    Spell Power: 2,214
    Multistrike: 1,906
    Spirit: 956
    Haste: 528
    Crit: 1,137
    Mastery: 496

    TSV: 13,965.12

    Existing BiS:

    Int: 3,719
    Spell Power: 2,544
    Multistrike: 1,994
    Spirit: 1,161
    Haste: 1,039
    Crit: 919
    Mastery: 260

    TSV: 15,553.2

    So all in all your list isnt aweful but like others you are missing a few key points of information. The ilvl variance makes a big difference and taking into account current stat weights will greatly change how valuable each piece is. i hope you take this information and either accept the current standard as best or see it as a challenge to improve upon!

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