Preliminary Overview of Enhancement Gear in HFC

[wordup]

I've got another spreadsheet up, currently without a definitive BiS list as that's something I'll be completing closer to the launch, similar to by T17 list I did for BRF launch. It's got all the relevant gear organised for Enhancement specifically; and I will be doing my best to keep the notes & trinket sections as up-to-date as possible, & open it up for any discussion people have regarding it & their findings.

Spreadsheet Link

Also, for anyone testing on the PTR I have set up a basic weakaura to track MSW up to 10 charges as the Blizzard graphical UI is currently having issues tracking it correctly:

Pastebin Link

& it looks like this:



(Squares that border around the original 5 are charges >5 being accumulated, obviously up to the cap of 10)

[Draenox]

Amazing, I was just looking for this.

Keeping in mind that tuning isn't done yet, how does enhancement look in HFC, better or worse than T17?

[wordup]

Amazing, I was just looking for this.

Keeping in mind that tuning isn't done yet, how does enhancement look in HFC, better or worse than T17?

I'll put my neck out and say we have a better skeleton for scaling & use in HFC compared to BRF; since we have no tuning I can't give a solid answer yet though.

I'd say we are looking at the very least viable on a majority of fights within HFC (and in particular on Archimonde; unlike Blackhand which was a very big issue) and the double dip scaling of the 2pc/4pc & trinket that are also scaling AoE in an extra way too is fantastic. It's much better than what our 2pc/4pc was in BRF which was purely a ST bonus.

[siccora]

so do you want to have 5 stacks all the time and only use mw at 10 stacks with lb or cl?

[Deleted]

Am I reading the shaman-only trinket correctly? Seems to me that enhancement would benefit from both the Windfury buff and the Flame Shock buff, where as Ele and Resto only benefit from one of the equip bonuses.

Or is it like talents, where the equip bonus depends on your spec?

[makiiholic]

The equip bonus depends on the spec yea. It will only be one of the three that is active.

[Enkay85]

Thanks for this!

[Deleted]

Thanks for this

[anthrixqt]

awesome bis list, but the ilvl changing kinda makes me wonder what the best bis list is, ilvl increases stats, but they may not be the best ones guacamole stromboli this is interesting.

[wordup]

Updated this quite extensively over the last 24 hours, will likely be doing more over the next week. Have a fairly strong idea of the end-tier BiS & have some sims on the trinkets & stat weights. Have off-piece stuff ready to go up tomorrow as well, for those interested.

[Inheritance]

Aren't the stat weights a bit weird? it's about 7% error, plus they're very close in value - crit is 82% of haste.

Imo, we should take legs as offpart, since they're the worst of the tier parts stat-wise (multi-crit), while we can get a mastery-multi or haste-mastery legs as off-part.

About the trinkets - Soul capacitor is very situational. can be OP for add waves, if you can keep your position next to boss, you can charge it really high with fire nova, hence getting high "ST" out of it, but if it procs while you're far from mobs it's a wasted proc (same for the mirror trinket, which from what i understood from some people who tested it that it's just putting some clones who spin around, not moving anywhere).

[wordup]

Aren't the stat weights a bit weird? it's about 7% error, plus they're very close in value - crit is 82% of haste.

Imo, we should take legs as offpart, since they're the worst of the tier parts stat-wise (multi-crit), while we can get a mastery-multi or haste-mastery legs as off-part.

About the trinkets - Soul capacitor is very situational. can be OP for add waves, if you can keep your position next to boss, you can charge it really high with fire nova, hence getting high "ST" out of it, but if it procs while you're far from mobs it's a wasted proc (same for the mirror trinket, which from what i understood from some people who tested it that it's just putting some clones who spin around, not moving anywhere).

The error is there because again, this is preliminary with the variance caused between the new bonuses having added RNG. This is consistently what has show up across a number of sims I have done.

The Legs may look like they are the best off-piece, but currently in Single Target situations, in which is the list I have put up there, the chest comes out ahead. In sustained 6 target AoE, the legs are just slightly superior, but the difference is so small that, just like in BRF, the decision will basically be decided by "whichever offpiece has WF or a socket"; or whichever you get first. A lot of the difficulties with trying to decide on it is that in HFC the stat skew is so high that even if we trade out a non-haste item for a haste item, in some situations the haste gain is very small, as it's the weaker stat on the item.

Soul Capacitor again is going to be doing high single target whether you can pad with fire nova or not, the proc is essentially a flat 35% damage increase for 10 seconds frontloaded into an explosion, if you fail to actually stay in position or are having difficulties with that then the trinket will come out worse than Censer in single target, but as it stands Capacitor is flat out better currently. Mirror also is not a proc, but a use, and the AoE channeled is strong enough when you stack it in a cluster of mobs that it's showing as a contender in a situation in which you can do so, and since it is on-use, you can manipulate its use to when AoE needs to happen.

- - - Updated - - -

Aren't the stat weights a bit weird? it's about 7% error, plus they're very close in value - crit is 82% of haste.

On this I have been running the same sim a few times over the last few hours, I have the error at a much lower margin but the results are not spectacularly far off what they originally shown, our stat scaling is fairly even, though I have updated the sheet with the fresher values.

[wordup]

I've now massively overhauled it for the launch of 6.2 with a better format & more user-friendly pages for different info people may be looking for. Can still be found here:

http://bit.ly/1K1pQel

[BloodyAngel12]

I've now massively overhauled it for the launch of 6.2 with a better format & more user-friendly pages for different info people may be looking for. Can still be found here:

http://bit.ly/1K1pQel

so top then going down is like 1st, 2nd , 3rd etc etc?

[wordup]

so top then going down is like 1st, 2nd , 3rd etc etc?

The calculator stuff is organised by Ilvl, the totals section is the judge for how strong an item is overall vs. others that haven't got individual sims in the BiS sections.

[BloodyAngel12]

The calculator stuff is organised by Ilvl, the totals section is the judge for how strong an item is overall vs. others that haven't got individual sims in the BiS sections.

Thanks Wordup, dont know if it will be usefull to me since i might go ele if i want a raid spot.

[Inheritance]

Very nice work. haven't gotten into testing it yet, does the mirror trinket scale with gear, or with your damage while it's active?

[Deleted]

may we get a closer look to your sims?

[wordup]

may we get a closer look to your sims?

So in my absolute genius (/s) I managed to shut SimC down after rushing to get the sheet updated yesterday without saving a good number of the more recent results on there. I re-ran most of them quickly this morning; here's a link with the sims referrenced in the guide (some of the original numbers are very slightly different due to MoE):

Pastebin Link!

[Deleted]

another question, whats your opinion when to lightening bolt with the new mechanic to stack maelstrom upto 10?