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    Sooo... Having a pet, makes you lose loot??

    Hey fellas
    Apparently after about 6 years of gaming WoW I learned something new about playing hunter today. If your pet kills a boss, you dont get loot. You get saved tho, but no loot. I was amazed of this, so I made contact to GM and had a conversation, which I cant show you since I havnt made enough posts, but the result can be summerised below.

    My problem was that I, during my weekly cleanup of old raids, came across a situation where Illidan simply despawned without granting me loot. OF any kind. I therefore made contact with a GM and he gave me the following email response:
    "Hello,

    Game Master Merenixia at your service.

    A million and two apologies about the loot. Since your pet got the kill - there was no loot generated for you.
    It works like that for all the hunters in game since the very start.
    Now I know thats not awesome but I hope this explains the whole situation a little better for you at least. Thanks for your legendary understanding.

    with most respect,

    Game Master <Merenixia>
    Customer Support
    Blizzard Entertainment"

    Amazing! I had no idea that me playing a hunter with a pet would eventually rip me of loot? Happy I just need to wait another week to do the boss again but. Wow...
    Just wanted to share my experience so you other hunters can take action (coz it doesn't seem devs/gms will), and start playing lone wolf when soloing content. Its just unneeded irritation and I hope you can use my bad experience towards something positive.
    And if anyone has a good answer as to why this HAS NOT been fixed I would like to know - just out of interest

    My conversation is at imgur under pictures TJiojSn and V4To8j3, if you wish to see them

    Disappointet hunter without Illidan bow and Gronnstalker chest
    Niveri

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    Pretty sure, it doesn't matter whether or not your pet gets the killing blow. It only matters whether you actually did damage to it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairhiin View Post
    Pretty sure, it doesn't matter whether or not your pet gets the killing blow. It only matters whether you actually did damage to it or not.
    This.......
    That's how it always was.
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    As you can see on the pictures on imgur (if you wanna go find them ofc ) the GM clearly states that is a matter of killing blow. My dmg matters ofc, but if I made the killing blow, I will still be granted loot. Since my wolf did a 1mil KC, and I made autoattack - I havnt done enough dmg to be granted loot. Still sux tho. No matter what. Still my pet lol

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    Still. Just because it's the way it always was - Does it mean it should always be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niverihunter View Post
    As you can see on the pictures on imgur (if you wanna go find them ofc ) the GM clearly states that is a matter of killing blow. My dmg matters ofc, but if I made the killing blow, I will still be granted loot. Since my wolf did a 1mil KC, and I made autoattack - I havnt done enough dmg to be granted loot. Still sux tho. No matter what. Still my pet lol

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    Still. Just because it's the way it always was - Does it mean it should always be?
    No it is NOT the killing blow..
    It's the kill. Your pet killed the target without you ever doing dmg to it.
    Go to a higher raid, hit the target once at the pull, then chill out and watch your pet do the work.... loot..
    You can also test that at any mob in the world.
    anything you hit, you can loot, anything you don't you can't.
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    I can't remember if I needed to do 30% or 70% of the dmg to get the kill, I tested it all the way back in early TBC. It was roughly one of the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niverihunter View Post
    As you can see on the pictures on imgur (if you wanna go find them ofc ) the GM clearly states that is a matter of killing blow. My dmg matters ofc, but if I made the killing blow, I will still be granted loot. Since my wolf did a 1mil KC, and I made autoattack - I havnt done enough dmg to be granted loot. Still sux tho. No matter what. Still my pet lol

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    Still. Just because it's the way it always was - Does it mean it should always be?
    "enough damage" = 1 damage sooooooooo...just do that. they don't want you just using your pet to farm loot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    No it is NOT the killing blow..
    It's the kill. Your pet killed the target without you ever doing dmg to it.
    Go to a higher raid, hit the target once at the pull, then chill out and watch your pet do the work.... loot..
    You can also test that at any mob in the world.
    anything you hit, you can loot, anything you don't you can't.
    Must have changed it, hitting it once wasn't enough years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairhiin View Post
    Pretty sure, it doesn't matter whether or not your pet gets the killing blow. It only matters whether you actually did damage to it or not.
    This exactly. I have been playing hunters for 10 years, can confirm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    Must have changed it, hitting it once wasn't enough years ago.
    Always been like that. You need to do 1 dmg. Pet can do the rest. If pet does 100% you cant loot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    Must have changed it, hitting it once wasn't enough years ago.
    you wouldn't be loot eligible if you'd die on a boss pull, wouldn't you?
    Pet aside now. Think world boss pull....
    Get's pulled, you die after your first hit, and then you never release until the boss is dead...... Loot.
    "The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."

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    Had the exact same happen to me this week. Unfortunately for me it was in Karazhan while trying to get my hands on that awesome gun in there. Right event but my pet managed to outrun my explosive and kill it before my hit got in. No loot, which isn't necessarily a problem, if it wasn't for the RNG on the Opera Event. Finally got the right one, fucked up. Not cool!

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    Well, im not making an argument here. Im simply telling you what the GM told me. Pet got killing blow = no loot for me. If you say its different - fine by me. Im just telling you what I was told.
    Still think it feels kinda idiotic since MoP buffed player and pet dmg in oldschool raiddungeons so much that one KC can hit for 1mill, and I never have the chance to do dmg. It feels like the "mechanic" is missing its target here. In my opinion of course.
    And wildtree - only if you do enough dmg compared to your pet and your pet doesnt get the kill ;D According to the GM ofc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torcque View Post
    Finally got the right one, fucked up. Not cool!
    Haha yeah sux!
    Pets 1shotting raidbosses and stealing our l00t aint cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by majinbebi View Post
    This exactly. I have been playing hunters for 10 years, can confirm.
    Also been seeing clueless GMs for 10 years, can confirm.
    Seriously, don't throw "facts" around if you are completely clueless, those bastards are even paid to do it


    PS: Blizzard, I need a job and can throw lies around as facts for money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarac View Post
    I can't remember if I needed to do 30% or 70% of the dmg to get the kill, I tested it all the way back in early TBC. It was roughly one of the two.
    It was neither. It's never worked like that in the history of WoW. Pet solos mob = you don't get the kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niverihunter View Post
    Hey fellas
    Apparently after about 6 years of gaming WoW I learned something new about playing hunter today. If your pet kills a boss, you dont get loot. You get saved tho, but no loot. I was amazed of this, so I made contact to GM and had a conversation, which I cant show you since I havnt made enough posts, but the result can be summerised below.

    My problem was that I, during my weekly cleanup of old raids, came across a situation where Illidan simply despawned without granting me loot. OF any kind. I therefore made contact with a GM and he gave me the following email response:
    "Hello,

    Game Master Merenixia at your service.

    A million and two apologies about the loot. Since your pet got the kill - there was no loot generated for you.
    It works like that for all the hunters in game since the very start.
    Now I know thats not awesome but I hope this explains the whole situation a little better for you at least. Thanks for your legendary understanding.

    with most respect,

    Game Master <Merenixia>
    Customer Support
    Blizzard Entertainment"

    Amazing! I had no idea that me playing a hunter with a pet would eventually rip me of loot? Happy I just need to wait another week to do the boss again but. Wow...
    Just wanted to share my experience so you other hunters can take action (coz it doesn't seem devs/gms will), and start playing lone wolf when soloing content. Its just unneeded irritation and I hope you can use my bad experience towards something positive.
    And if anyone has a good answer as to why this HAS NOT been fixed I would like to know - just out of interest

    My conversation is at imgur under pictures TJiojSn and V4To8j3, if you wish to see them

    Disappointet hunter without Illidan bow and Gronnstalker chest
    Niveri
    Everyday we learn something new hehehe
    Yes true happend to me before
    To avoid that at least land 1 hit with your hunter.
    Last edited by HeiAggra; 2015-06-10 at 12:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niverihunter View Post
    Well, im not making an argument here. Im simply telling you what the GM told me. Pet got killing blow = no loot for me. If you say its different - fine by me. Im just telling you what I was told.
    Still think it feels kinda idiotic since MoP buffed player and pet dmg in oldschool raiddungeons so much that one KC can hit for 1mill, and I never have the chance to do dmg. It feels like the "mechanic" is missing its target here. In my opinion of course.
    And wildtree - only if you do enough dmg compared to your pet and your pet doesnt get the kill ;D According to the GM ofc.

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    Haha yeah sux!
    Pets 1shotting raidbosses and stealing our l00t aint cool!
    The buff in old dungeons/raids that make pets oneshot stuff also makes YOU oneshot stuff.

    Just disable pet and clear dungeon with one barrage
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Just because Mannoroth and Archimonde are involved doesn't mean it's Legion. They could just be on vacation, demolishing Draenor to build their new summer home.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dundebuns View Post
    Did you know that salt has sodium and chlorine in it!!!! Sodium explodes when exposed to atmosphere and you clean your toilets with chlorine!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by majinbebi View Post
    This exactly. I have been playing hunters for 10 years, can confirm.
    Me for 9 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    No it is NOT the killing blow..
    It's the kill.
    anything you hit, you can loot, anything you don't you can't.
    Still seems kinda dumb. The pet wouldnt kill anything If I didnt tell it 2? same with bow lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niverihunter View Post
    Still seems kinda dumb. The pet wouldnt kill anything If I didnt tell it 2? same with bow lol?
    Still it was always like this

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