Possible Solution to Climate Change.

[Orlong]

I seem to remember a movie I watched when I was younger where in order to avoid an asteroid destroying the earth the moved the Earth by installing a bunch of rockets in a large area of land and fired them all at once. While in real life that would probably be disastrous if it worked like in the movie because it moved the earth a far distance, if we tried something like that now in a more controlled manner, would it even be possible to get enough thrust to move the earth like a spaceship. I would think with several million rockets in a concentrated area, it would be possible to move the earth just far enough away from the sun that it would cool the earth a few degrees

[Ticj]

Erm...pretty sure it would be a lot easier to I don't know..care for the environment?


And no...don't think this would work either.

[Kujako]

You sure that wasn't Futurama you were watching?

[lockedout]

I seem to remember a movie I watched when I was younger where in order to avoid an asteroid destroying the earth the moved the Earth by installing a bunch of rockets in a large area of land and fired them all at once. While in real life that would probably be disastrous if it worked like in the movie because it moved the earth a far distance, if we tried something like that now in a more controlled manner, would it even be possible to get enough thrust to move the earth like a spaceship. I would think with several million rockets in a concentrated area, it would be possible to move the earth just far enough away from the sun that it would cool the earth a few degrees

That would have devastating effects but it wouldn't work.

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Firing rockets at an asteroid would just cause a lot more asteroids to hit Earth.

I don't think you understood what he said.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Well Orlong, at least your heart is in the right place finally.

[Deleted]

Well the rocket thing is kinda crazy as even the slightest move from our current orbit is kinda sending us to crash with any planet.

However if you want a solution i recall someone i spoke to who said that there were the solution of cloud whiting where you just have a bunch of unmanned boats that spray salt water into the air which would create white clouds that sun light would bounce on and away from seas that absorbs the heat. I think it was somewhere around 80 billion $ it would cost to make but again up to those who want to do that.

Again this is only what i heard by a friend can confirm sorry.

[Tradewind]

The Earth's orbit widens and shrinks naturally by about 5000km between its aphelion and perihelion every year and it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Shoving us a bit further isn't going to change anything.

Not to mention that blasting a million rockets would likely contribute even more to the problem than this ridiculous notion would hope to solve.

[Kalis]

Not to mention that blasting a million rockets would likely contribute even more to the problem than this ridiculous notion would hope to solve.

That does seem to highlight a flaw in the plan.

[Orlong]

The Earth's orbit widens and shrinks naturally by about 5000km between its aphelion and perihelion every year and it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Shoving us a bit further isn't going to change anything.

Not to mention that blasting a million rockets would likely contribute even more to the problem than this ridiculous notion would hope to solve.

I never thought of that

[Deleted]

I'm pretty sure detonating the entire nuclear arsenal currently existing on Earth, even if it was made into some kind of a "rocket" form, wouldn't nudge the Earth from it's orbit.

And then again, even if we'd manage to nudge the Earth the tiniest bit, which I'm sure we never could, it would just correct it's orbit around the Sun, unless the mass of the Sun or the Earth would change significantly.

[nextormento]

Note that rockets work because they eject part of their mass: the exhaust.
They get propelled in the same way you feel a push back when you throw something heavy and/or fast ahead: conservation of momentum.
The idea would be to put them high up, point them down, and propel the Earth. The exhaust is directed out of the earth, etc etc. Sound idea. But you need to eject a butt load of mass to make it work in any noticeable fashion, I'm afraid: the vast majority of the mass of a rocket is that ejected mass, to propel our tiny capsules, so some sizable % of the total mass of the earth is to be disposed off in your idea.

[Archonite]

Even assuming it would be possible to convince people these rockets would work, im sure we could just get clean energy for a fraction of the cost of those rockets. And even now we have many climate change deniers among the general public and politicians. Research is difficult, opponents try to get it defunded or plain ignore it. Imagine the amount of unforeseen consequences of moving earths orbit that would have to be researched. If we can barely manage the first step of accepting climate change, id consider it impossible to look at a massive project of changing earths orbit. And the rockets would have close to zero investment value. Clean energy production will continue to be usefull for a long time, yet those rockets would lose all their value once the earth has moved, assuming we dont need to keep adjusting over and over.

[Amorac]

Not to mention that blasting a million rockets would likely contribute even more to the problem than this ridiculous notion would hope to solve.

Or the pollution caused by creating said ammount of rockets and moving them to correct position..

[vindicatorx]

I never thought of that

I mean think about it mathematically and see if you can determine why your idea is utterly ridiculous.
The Earth weighs 5.972E24 kg and moves at 30,000 m/s. Think about how much energy it would take to change the path of an object that big.

[Stonecloak]

Caring is a start, but I think the problem is deeper then that. People generally not understanding that the environment is just as important to them as their organs, and Usually feeling as if nature is stupid, and just a set of resources for us to consume. You hurt the environment, your literally hurting mankind. It should have never been domination over the environment, and instead it should have been working along with it. The sun gives off as much energy in a day that we consume in a year. We're smart enough to make it work without destroying our world.

[the game]

What we need to do is stop farting so we're not committing deadly chemicals into the atomsphere.

[Wildtree]

I mean think about it mathematically and see if you can determine why your idea is utterly ridiculous.
The Earth weighs 5.972E24 kg and moves at 30,000 m/s. Think about how much energy it would take to change the path of an object that big.

Now don't ridicule him..... For once he has a humane idea, no matter silly or not. That's almost reason to open a bottle and have a toast.

But I cannot see how shifting Earth would make much difference anyway.. Further out from the sun, to expand it's orbit?
Makes it cooler, yes.... Also makes the year longer... Creates possible consequences with the other planets (I'm no astro physicist). and might throw the whole solar system out of whack. I really wouldn't wanna mess with our orbit.

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What we need to do is stop farting so we're not committing deadly chemicals into the atomsphere.

There you go...
And we need to eat steaks... lot's of steaks.. We've gotta get rid of those cattle herds. Instead we need to populate the waters again with more fish, they don't fart and are an excellent protein.

[Grummgug]

Just build a giant sunscreen between Earth and the Sun to cut down on sunlight. That will cool the planet real fast!

It would be expensive to build so the government can create a "sunlight tax" to pay for it. If you don't pay your tax, they stop allowing sunlight to reach you. Eventually the government gets greedy and starts guilt-tripping everyone for wanting so much sun. The classic way the government controls the people is to artificially create shortages of something and then regulate it.

[Skandulous]

I'm pretty sure detonating the entire nuclear arsenal currently existing on Earth, even if it was made into some kind of a "rocket" form, wouldn't nudge the Earth from it's orbit.

And then again, even if we'd manage to nudge the Earth the tiniest bit, which I'm sure we never could, it would just correct it's orbit around the Sun, unless the mass of the Sun or the Earth would change significantly.

Technically the Earth does not orbit the Sun. Also the Earth is in winter time at its closest point to the sun and summer is at the farthest point from the sun and thats because of the Earths axis.

[nextormento]

Now don't ridicule him..... For once he has a humane idea, no matter silly or not.

I'm actually surprised Orlong has the patience to hang around with all the abuse directed at him. People even mention him when he's not in the thread :/.