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    "We will overhaul Demonology in a future patch"

    Calling it now, the overhaul will make it a standard dot proc filler spec.

    Soul fire as a proc, SB as a filler, Doom as a dot (because 2 dots require addons to track, right?), hand of guldan as a spammable aoe after immo gets pruned.

    And of course, Meta will become a standard 20% dmg 3 min cd.

    Calling it now, folks!

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    It's possible, but we literally have no feedback on it, so it is probably too early to start complaining about it.

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    I really hope they actually invest time into Demonology and that what you say does not come to pass...
    In Cata / Mop it was Kinda fun / Super fun but it's so stale now.
    Come forth coward and answer for your crimes!!

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    Sounds about right, they wouldn't want us to have to think too hard.

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    if it lets me become something akin to Illidan then just a shadow demon then I am all for it, especially if I can wield two warglaives made from the fel energies of the nether and command the powers of the fel and summon two elemental's to kick ass all around. XD

    I know wishful thinking, but I can dream.

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    lock tank spec...COME ON BLIZZ DOOO IT!!!

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    Plot twist, they are removing metamorphosis so they can implement demon hunters!

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    100% Demonform, no mana, Touch of Chaos refills Fury, Soulfire procs, Chaos wave just plain dmg, Only Doom as dot.

    Demonbolt talent substitue Soulfire as a stronger spell.

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    Jumping to the worst possible conclusion in a single bound.

    I doubt we'll see anything quite that drastic. More likely they'll a address the CW Vs HoG debate, because such a debate shouldn't really exist. Second they'll likely look at HoG stacking, it's not really intuitive and only serves itself for its own sake as a mechanic, rather than having a real purpose. Lastly, they'll look at the 100 talents and the damage weighting that they have.

    AoE also needs a look, because it is a clusterfuck, not just mechanically but because melee. By extension that also means looking at the 90 talents, specifically MF as well.

    All that is too much for mid expansion, understandably.

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    What you're most likely to see is just trimming the excess (awkward) complexity. Something along the lines of this:

    Corruption removed and Doom castable in normal form.
    Molten Core redesigned.
    Chaos Wave delinked from Hand of Gul'dan.

    Although, those are changes better suited for a new expansion.

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    Demo, the one spec of the one class that isnt boring... Good while it lasted.

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    As a former MoP moonkin who experienced "Celestalon's class overhaul", I suggest you start looking for other class/spec to play or just leave the game.

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    I'm not sure how HoG vs CW are too complicated. Boomkin just got redesigned this expansion and they have the same system and charges. starsurge = HoG, starfall = CW. They're exactly the same so it should not be the thing that makes them want to redesign warlock. Stance dance only gets more complicated because of the t17 4pc bonus. It makes extend HoG debuff longer possible and introduce the stance dance mechanic but you only have to do it once in the beginning. In t18 without 3 charges of HoG and no chance to reset HoG/CW cd you pretty much has no reason to stance dance anymore and it becomes pretty straight forward.

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    I expect to see:

    HoG/CW removed, or at least CW removed. It adds complexity that Blizzard doesn't like and good AoE burst.

    Meta becomes a flat CD with maybe a timer reduction mechanic similar to Cata. Meta adds complexity that Blizzard doesn't like.

    Touch of Chaos removed. Cast on the move is against Blizz's vision of what we find fun.

    Shadowbolt in human form only, Soul Fire in Meta form only. Two fillers adds too much complexity that Blzzard doesn't like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marais View Post
    As a former MoP moonkin who experienced "Celestalon's class overhaul", I suggest you start looking for other class/spec to play or just leave the game.
    Eh it isn't like locks haven't seen numerous class overhauls over the years from the 6 dot insanity of 3.0 Aff to the raidbuff insanity of 3.4 (?) Demo, to the Cata changes, to the MoP total revamp. The only time we didn't see massive changes was in WoD other than the nerfing of casting while moving and removal of the snapshot mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish Nerd View Post
    Plot twist, they are removing metamorphosis so they can implement demon hunters!
    Came here to say exactly that. I know it's far-fetched and just one of many dumb conspiracy theories but a part of me actually believes they're overhauling Demonology just because of Demon Hunters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandrace View Post
    if it lets me become something akin to Illidan then just a shadow demon then I am all for it, especially if I can wield two warglaives made from the fel energies of the nether and command the powers of the fel and summon two elemental's to kick ass all around. XD

    I know wishful thinking, but I can dream.
    Don't confuse a Demon Hunter with a Warlock. It does no good to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    Came here to say exactly that. I know it's far-fetched and just one of many dumb conspiracy theories but a part of me actually believes they're overhauling Demonology just because of Demon Hunters.

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    Don't confuse a Demon Hunter with a Warlock. It does no good to anyone.
    Lol @ demonhunter conspiracy. People just need to give up on it because that shit is never gonna happen especially not in the next expansion anyway. You think they will introduce another DW leather agi class right after they have introduced a DW leather agi class aka monk in MOP? Say what you want to say but introduce two class of the same category consecutively is retarded beyond imagination. Solely because of that demonhunter is not gonna debut. May be in another 10 years that will happen. Also, I dont hate demonhunter. Illidan is my favorite character in wow lore and demonhunter was my favorite hero in w3 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Netherspark View Post
    What you're most likely to see is just trimming the excess (awkward) complexity. Something along the lines of this:

    Corruption removed and Doom castable in normal form.
    Molten Core redesigned.
    Chaos Wave delinked from Hand of Gul'dan.

    Although, those are changes better suited for a new expansion.
    This looks/sounds somewhat reasonable, if it's just that.

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    Make demo form the brute it was in cataclysm, i loved being face to face with a warrior and watching his hits tickle when he attacked me.
    My name is what makes me so manly.


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    I'd like to see HoG stacking gone, and corruption to update dynamically. For example you put corruption on something, meta, all of a sudden it turns into a monster DoT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    Came here to say exactly that. I know it's far-fetched and just one of many dumb conspiracy theories but a part of me actually believes they're overhauling Demonology just because of Demon Hunters.

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    Don't confuse a Demon Hunter with a Warlock. It does no good to anyone.
    Demon hunters embrace demonic powers to hunt demons pretty damn similar and no reason why demon hunter can't be a spec for locks.

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