Ingenious way killer robots will happens in reality...

[LairenyX]

I mean, just think about it. In movies, it's all about Skynet this, Skynet that... that's how it's going to happen. But in real life, it happens in a way you NEVER EVER expect. How it happens: we have a country with an extremely powerful military, yet it does not want to have boots on the ground in term of real flesh and blood soldier. So you get a situation where organization like ISIS rise up, but the country with the strong military gimps itself by not allowing itself to send soldier into battle. So you have a problem, what is the solution around the problem? Solution: killer robots! It's ingenious holy crap. Those who say "No boots on the ground"--due to disliking death of living soldier on their side, have nothing to say to kill robots. Since real people won't be dying, but robot instead. LOL, what a way around.


Lets say we make them. When we make them. This isn't a discussion about ethic. This is not a discussion about ifs. This is a discussion about it's going to happen. When it does, what should they look like? Example:



I mean, why not? why not just make them look exactly like this? we already have an idea which is popular in the movies which has made us familiar and inspired us to the idea of killer robots. Instead of making the real thing look like something else, why not just make them look exactly like something we're familiar with? if you were on the military board to design the look of killer robots, would you vote to make them look like the Terminators or something else if those were the only two options? IMO you shouldn't have any reason to make them look like anything else.

I have to say, the evolution of how killer robots happen in nature is interesting and kind of ironic. If we had every human societies in nature act like ISIS, or to more of an extend Roman/middle age/medieval time societies, with a lack of caring for life, then they'll just use real people to fight wars and kill. However, it gets to a point in evolution where some societies start to become more caring for life, thus showing restraint in the killing, and this give rise to killer robots. LOL!!! super interesting how it happens.

[Independent voter]

[LairenyX]

I mean, but why? we already have something very familiar and popular looking already. Why would you not want to make the real life killer robots look like the metallic skeleton in the OP instead of the picture you have chosen?

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I mean, but why? we already have something very familiar and popular looking already. Why would you not want to make the real life killer robots look like the metallic skeleton in the OP instead of the picture you have chosen?

because from a mechanical standpoint. Its inefficient. Too many moving parts and weak points of exposure. they would also be too slow.

[mickybrighteyes]

killer robots seem to expensive to create and maintain.

lets just beef up mental manipulation methods and turn enemy troops against one another. maybe if we lob hallucinogenics into dense groups... and play the right sequence of sounds....

[LairenyX]

because from a mechanical standpoint. Its inefficient. Too many moving parts and weak points of exposure. they would also be too slow.

IMO... the robot shown in post #2 is too big and more vulnerable to RPGs attack.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_Avenger

There's your killer robot right there. Take some NPC code from the latest Bethesda game and slap it on a drone and voila, killer robots in the sky.

[LairenyX]

killer robots seem to expensive to create and maintain.

lets just beef up mental manipulation methods and turn enemy troops against one another. maybe if we lob hallucinogenics into dense groups... and play the right sequence of sounds....

Are you really saying this? when the USAF try to maintain planes which cost like 20 - 150+ million a pop? The USNavy have to do upkeep on expensive aircraft carrier as well as F-18 and F-35 fighter plane which also cost about 100mil + a piece for the F-35? not to say it cost like 1 million dollar to maintain a soldier over sea per year I think. If you can build a robot that cost at 500k a piece, that would be a killing.

I mean, these robots won't be fighting by themselves, I assume the US would use them in a supporting role with the Iraqis military or the like.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_Avenger

There's your killer robot right there. Take some NPC code from the latest Bethesda game and slap it on a drone and voila, killer robots in the sky.

The problem is, the US need something on the ground and in greater number. In the sky, yes you do airstrike, but you need ground intel, and you need the ground component to successfully take advantage of the air support. That's why CNN keep saying airstrike does not stop ISIS. Airstrike alone is not enough. That's why the US have a problem. It needs a ground component, but public opinion say no boots. So, it has to depend on the foreign military of the sovereign nation, but those are unreliable sometimes. What the US can do the best is to train these forces. However, if it has killer robots, it can just send them in with the friendly forces. Just like the drone program on the sky but this time on the ground instead.

[Ornerybear]

Are you really saying this? when the USAF try to maintain planes which cost like 20 - 150+ million a pop? The USNavy have to do upkeep on expensive aircraft carrier as well as F-18 and F-35 fighter plane which also cost about 100mil + a piece for the F-35? not to say it cost like 1 million dollar to maintain a soldier over sea per year I think. If you can build a robot that cost at 500k a piece, that would be a killing.

I mean, these robots won't be fighting by themselves, I assume the US would use them in a supporting role with the Iraqis military or the like.

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The problem is, the US need something on the ground and in greater number. In the sky, yes you do airstrike, but you need ground intel, and you need the ground component to successfully take advantage of the air support. That's why CNN keep saying airstrike does not stop ISIS. Airstrike alone is not enough. That's why the US have a problem. It needs a ground component, but public opinion say no boots. So, it has to depend on the foreign military of the sovereign nation, but those are unreliable sometimes. What the US can do the best is to train these forces. However, if it has killer robots, it can just send them in with the friendly forces. Just like the drone program on the sky but this time on the ground instead.

I like the arbitrary numbers you are pulling out of no where on the cost of one robot. 500k. where did you get that statistic. do you have a background in robotics and engineering development? no you dont.

on top of this, more than likely they all won't look humanoid. there is no "military board" as you put it, sitting down and deciding how the thing will look. In reality, in the real world, there is a team of military engineering companies consulting and engineering these very things, they ENGINEER it. it will end up looking however the function of the robot dictates. they do not care if it looks cool or looks like a human. this is how military engineering works.

IN REALITY, this is what DARPA is currently developing as a mobile on the ground soldier. this is big dog. nothing like a terminator.








They are also working on this, thats more similar to what you are looking for, so you may end up with a humanoid soldier in the long run.

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Can't wait till the military starts looking into smaller inexpensive robots/drones which operate on swarm intelligence models to take down armored vehicles.

Other then that power supply is still a real concern for human sized robots. to big for batteries to small for engines. (mostly because a lot of the mass is in the extremities, rather then the central body like bigdog)

[Grummgug]

However, it gets to a point in evolution where some societies start to become more caring for life, thus showing restraint in the killing, and this give rise to killer robots. LOL!!! super interesting how it happens.

This is the flaw in your reasoning. We don't care anymore than we used to. We have not evolved. What we DO have is that the media selectively reports it. There are genocides in Africa and many other places going on today. The media doesn't report it. The west uses chinese citizens as slave labor to make them things. Nobody cares about that, either. The media doesn't report it.

The media asserts that we care more today than before, when we don't. The media is about trying to get democrats elected, so it will selectively report "caring for life" to put democrats in the best light possible and republicans in the worst light possible.

When we finally construct a robot army, the media will portray it as a responsible thing and downplay any mistakes or problems as long as democrats are in charge. When republicans are in charge, the media will highlight mistakes and question if we should just disband the robot army.

And of course, if you had a truly socialist government, with government in charge of building the robot army and ordering it around, the media would almost NEVER report anything bad about them. They might be sent off to a foreign country and commit genocide and the media wouldn't report it.

We can see it happening today. Fidel Castro ran concentration camps. He murdered his own people. Slaughtered them en masse in camps. He is paraded around almost as a hero today, with photos of him sharing huge grins with liberal leaders. Why? Because he was on the LEFT. So it doesn't get reported. Most people probably don't even know his crimes. if they can do THAT with Fidel fucking Castro, that total scumbag, they sure as hell as can do it with a robot army.