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If I dismember someone and they die from it but it takes some time so they're suffering quite the bit before they die, and if I kill someone with a gun shot to the head, due to them being black.Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums
Which is the worst?
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2015-06-19, 08:34 PM #21Deleted
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2015-06-19, 08:35 PM #22Pit Lord
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Depends on the poster. For example, I would be very wary to take any of your posts without a pound of salt, let alone a grain. I would argue that no matter who is the victim, if it is racially-motivated they should receive the same harsh punishment. Originally Posted by Vyxn
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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2015-06-19, 08:35 PM #23The Insane
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These women are racists that killed black people. Originally Posted by Saucexorzski
Roof is a racist that killed black people.
Connection established.“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
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2015-06-19, 08:36 PM #24The Lightbringer
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Why the fuck did the women who were there that night get shorter sentences then the guy who wasn't there on the night somebody was killed?
Ever been so angry at everyone on the internet you tell a woman she is mansplaining? Originally Posted by Axelhander
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2015-06-19, 08:36 PM #25The Insane
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The crime happened in 2011. The Sentencing happened this year. Originally Posted by sharpy
“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
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2015-06-19, 08:37 PM #26Titan
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you are kidding correct? Originally Posted by Felya
you can not post crime stats from the FBI with out getting an infraction don't believe so just go over to the Charleston church shooting thread and see for your self
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2015-06-19, 08:38 PM #27Scarab Lord
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Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums
ARE YOU SERIOUS? *pokes your forehead* Engage said device please. It's a news story covering an event from 4 years ago that happens to push the hot button of race relations right now. That is the very definition of sensationalistic journalism.
Not to mention dailymail's reputation of course...
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2015-06-19, 08:38 PM #28Pit Lord
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Strawman fallacy. If you really need to build up a different scenario just to try to prove your point, it just shows that you're wrong, if not at the least on its basis. But I'll take the bait for the sake of humor. Both would be considered worse in their own category. However, it is still difficult to compare the two; You don't compare Usain Bolt to Michael Phelps, even if they are the fastest at their category. Originally Posted by Tiili Mooneye
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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2015-06-19, 08:39 PM #29DeletedThey weren't convicted for murder. Originally Posted by Sicari
U.S. District Judge Henry T. Wingate on Thursday sentenced Shelbie Brooke Richards, 21, of Pearl to eight years in prison on one count each of conspiracy to commit a hate crime and concealing the crime by lying to police.
In a separate hearing earlier Thursday, Wingate also sentenced Sarah Adelia Graves, 22, of Crystal Springs to five years in prison for one count of conspiracy to commit a hate crime.
Conspiracy to commit hate crime, and concealing the crime by lying to the police. Not murder.
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Actions is what makes something bad or worse, not the motivation behind it, which was my point. It's not a "strawman fallacy". You should always put action above motivation. Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums
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2015-06-19, 08:40 PM #30Pit Lord
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You are trying to tell someone they don't know how to read when you failed to do so? Originally Posted by Teebone
The trial and sentencing was less than 2 months ago for the women, and the sentences for the other members of the group are still proceeding. Hence, it is relevant.
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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2015-06-19, 08:40 PM #31Void Lord
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No, I am not kidding. If you want to start race bait threads based on the color of the people involved, instead of their motive, all power to you. Just know you will be infracted for starting a biased thread... Originally Posted by Vyxn
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2015-06-19, 08:40 PM #32Pit Lord
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Thank goodness someone understands why the story was brought up. Originally Posted by Sicari
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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2015-06-19, 08:42 PM #33Scarab Lord
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If there wasn't such issues of race with recent goings-on here in the states, would it be AS relevant? Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums
You are trying to tell someone they don't know how to read when you failed to do so? The trial and sentencing was less than 2 months ago for the women, and the sentences for the other members of the group are still proceeding. Hence, it is relevant.
Not a chance.
I stand by my convictions, just a cheap rise that dailymail is known for.
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2015-06-19, 08:43 PM #34The Insane
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Yes, the crime happened 4 years ago. But the sentencing for that crime happened just a few months ago Originally Posted by Teebone
“The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.
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2015-06-19, 08:43 PM #35The Unstoppable Force
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Name one country without anti-immigrant, racists people to some extent.
I could go rant about how little black/poor whites lives seem to matter in the US in too many cases as much as I can rant about my own and almost every other EU country having anti-imigrant parties pissing their pants about a 'muslim takeover'.But soon after Mr Xi secured a third term, Apple released a new version of the feature in China, limiting its scope. Now Chinese users of iPhones and other Apple devices are restricted to a 10-minute window when receiving files from people who are not listed as a contact. After 10 minutes, users can only receive files from contacts.
Apple did not explain why the update was first introduced in China, but over the years, the tech giant has been criticised for appeasing Beijing.
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2015-06-19, 08:44 PM #36Pit Lord
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+1. Not to mention the fact that by doing so, you (the poster) would be committing the fallacy "Tu quoque" while simultaneously trying to derail the thread. Think about it, you're trying to belittle a mass murder by saying "well they deserved it. Their people did similar things too." Originally Posted by Felya
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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Recent? It's only recent if you just started to notice... Originally Posted by Teebone
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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2015-06-19, 08:45 PM #38Pit Lord
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If you want I can link you multiple other sites that have the same "sensationalism". Originally Posted by Teebone
"Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
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2015-06-19, 08:45 PM #39Titan
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so what motives do we have posting white on black violence? is that motive any different then posting black on white violence? Originally Posted by Felya
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Within the last year is recent enough, or should I quote you mentioning when the sentencing hearing was again? Ooooooo... Originally Posted by Felya
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