Hellfire Citadel Mythic Progression Thread

[Raiju]

We're talking about blackhand in general, in which as I pointed out the boss in it's pre nerf version required you to have x classes if you wanted to kill it. There is noting tactical about it. If you didn't have a priest for blast furnace, it didn't mean your strats were bad, it meant you had a shitty comp.

Furnace is a bad example though since everyone knew you needed a priest beforehand. Blackhand was not the case. It was a complete gamble and paragon lost. You had an idea of what classes would be better for blackhand but in the end it was a gamble until actually getting on the boss. Paragon brought 2 hunters because beforehand they thought 2 would work, they needed 3 though. Method brought 3, they needed 3. Method won.

Blackhand is not a very good boss to judge who had the better tactics and strategy in end, though.

I assume you're not talking about world first races, but for lower progress guilds who kill it when all the optimal setups are common knowledge.

The top guilds actually have to work that out for you - you can see sometimes 2 guilds take noticeably different methods on fights because of that where viable. To use 2 examples, method and paragon did have very clear different styles showing in their tactics even when they did the same (or near) strat in a lot of previous fights.

This won't apply to what it sounds like you're talking to, because you see what the top guilds killed it with, get to analyze it POST kill (rather than during wipes, where you may be trying to keep other classes for X or Y reason that you don't immediately realize its not necessary), and get to even see exact positioning via videos and such that the top guilds tend to learn themselves, or at least between them.

Paragon and method on blackhand had COMPLETELY different strategies going into the fight by my memory. One of them was BL'ing P1 at first, then realized they weren't going to make the fight without BL at the end so had to switch, and readjust from there. That is entirely on their strategy, which their comp was built around.

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[17:04] == Vereesa changed the topic of #paragon to: 11/13 Hellfire Citadel - http://www.paragon.fi - English only

easy mode

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Paragon 11/13 Xhul down

[Bodom]

Not the account sharing BS again....

Blizzard doesn't care as guilds have done it since Cata.

All top raiding guilds aren't going to not do it if it gives them a better comp, so don't think your fanboy rank 1-15 world guild would never do it because they will/have.

Go back to your Garrison dailies, Legacy instance runs, LFR as anyone who cries about account sharing surely does solely in this game.

Give it enough attention and we might get lucky. I personally would prefer a world first race without obvious stuff like this going on. Why are they even bothering with renaming the characters and hiding alts on wowprogress if Blizzard doesn't care and their fans don't see it as cheating? Who are they trying to fool?

[InstantPoM]

That was fast.

[Deleted]

And your some kind of referee?

No. I've just been in the game long enough to understand the rules.

According to their guild master it's no big deal and they do everything as long as everyone else does it. So yeah probably.

So according to them they won't consider themselves disqualified. That's reassuring, right?

Big lol. No one cheated, acc sharing (even if its against eula) doesnt give any unfair advantage, they just do it to have a better comp, and all top tier guilds do that.

Account sharing is cheating.

who gives a literal Fuck. It's not a bot playing, it's an actual person.

It's important because they're breaking the ToS and bypassing RNG and that hurts the race.

[Vestig3]

No. I've just been in the game long enough to understand the rules.




So according to them they won't consider themselves disqualified. That's reassuring, right?



Account sharing is cheating.




It's important because they're breaking the ToS and bypassing RNG and that hurts the race.

Meanwhile Paragon doesnt care and takes the race to 11/13.

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Meanwhile Paragon doesnt care and takes the race to 11/13.

They're in a separate race now though but yeah, they killed it first but not legitimately.

[AmboWambo]

Give it enough attention and we might get lucky. I personally would prefer a world first race without obvious stuff like this going on. Why are they even bothering with renaming the characters and hiding alts on wowprogress if Blizzard doesn't care and their fans don't see it as cheating? Who are they trying to fool?

It was given a huge amount of attention in Tier 17.

[Socialhealer]

lol at the shitters, telling who is and who isn't disqualified.

no-one cares apart from the other trolls.

[Tekkommo]

Is this when all the paragon fans come to the thread and say how acct sharing doesn't matter now?

It was given a huge amount of attention in Tier 17.

Only because of butthurt paragon fans.

Account sharing has always happened, nothing new, but excuses.

[Vestig3]

It was given a huge amount of attention in Tier 17.

Just a small amount of ignorant people that care while the most of us knew this has been happening for years and just accept that its happening.

They're in a separate race now though but yeah, they killed it first but not legitimately.

Its the complete opposite, you ignorant people are now looking at a different race while the rest is still looking at the main race.

[Amantino]

They're in a separate race now though but yeah, they killed it first but not legitimately.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but nobody cares. Account-sharing is generally accepted.

[Bodom]

It was given a huge amount of attention in Tier 17.

Lots of things have been given a lot of attention without changing anything. Keep doing it and maybe stuff will happen. I personally would like Blizzard to grow a pair and do something, but doing it in the middle of progress would mess things up. Maybe a warning before the next WF race begins, that would be cool.

lol at the shitters, telling who is and who isn't disqualified.

no-one cares apart from the other trolls.

Many people care and many people don't. What matters is whether or not Blizzard cares.

[waleedbt]

So Method needed 2 days to kill it?

mhmmmm lets see their Tyrant.

[Janir]

In the past it was 10 vs 25 and now since we only have 20man Mythic all these forums are about is raging who's account sharing and who's not

OT: Gz paragon for Xhul

[Deadite]

It's important because they're breaking the ToS and bypassing RNG and that hurts the race.

The race has always been about who can clever use of game mechanic their way to first place. Blatant rule breaking is nothing new.

[Bodom]

Only because of butthurt paragon fans.

Account sharing has always happened, nothing new, but excuses.

They account shared on BH too and that was pointed out.

[InstantPoM]

They're in a separate race now though but yeah, they killed it first but not legitimately.

Someone call Paragon with the bad news, Bozzel has disqualified them from the race. Better luck next time, guis!

[Kazuchika]

So Paragon is now disqualified this tier because of account sharing. Does anybody know if Method has cheated yet?

lol okay.

/10 char