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    Suicide Squad's Cara Delevingne: 'Superhero Movies Are Totally Sexist'

    https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/suicide-...574255524.html

    Cara Delevingne has slammed comic book movies for being “totally sexist” ahead of her role in Warner Bros and DC Comics’ ‘Suicide Squad’.
    She made the comments in an interview with Empire Magazine in issue 314.

    She obviously doesn't read comic books >.> I also find it ironic she says the three female roles are the best when one character Harley Quinn is a character completely obsessed over her abusive lover and seemingly needs her man even when he tries killing you. Yeah. you go gurl!

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    She's taking a well trodden path of trying to be a little bit edgy/controversial to get herself noticed, it's worked for her so far and will possibly continue to do so until she's established. It's quite hard to be taken seriously in acting or music when you've started out as a catwalk model, so it's an understandable route.

    I saw her on Graham Norton recently and she comes across as a rather desperate attenion seeker, it was in stark comparison to Emilia Clarke who seemed to be a typical Middle Class girl from the Home Counties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    She's taking a well trodden path of trying to be a little bit edgy/controversial to get herself noticed, it's worked for her so far and will possibly continue to do so until she's established. It's quite hard to be taken seriously in acting or music when you've started out as a catwalk model, so it's an understandable route.

    I saw her on Graham Norton recently and she comes across as a rather desperate attenion seeker, it was in stark comparison to Emilia Clarke who seemed to be a typical Middle Class girl from the Home Counties.
    I imagine Suicide Squad will flop so she's probably gonna disappear soon

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    I wonder if that's the photo she would've picked to be on the Internet?

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    Action movies lack (good) female protagonists, comic books lack (good) female protagonists, videogames lack (good) female protagonists.

    You want to know why? Because men write those things, and believe it or not, it's hard to come up with good characters that don't think the way you do, and the characters that you end up creating to compensate feel forced and/or unnatural.

    The kind of writers that are able to project their creativity into more varied characters don't usually write superheroes.

    If women are so interested in reading, watching or playing these media, they'll have to start making their own. Same thing for race and sexual preference.

    Now, how succesful can they be when most of the consumers are allegedly 'young white males' who, for the same reason these people don't like the 'normal' superheroes, won't like their work is another matter entirely.

    As for Suicide Squad specifically, none of the characters is supposed to be likeable or relatable. Or does she think Deadshot, Captain Boomerang and Killer Croc are interesting and believable male role models? Not to mention the character Harley is obsessed with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    I imagine Suicide Squad will flop so she's probably gonna disappear soon
    A quick look on IMDB shows she's got about half a dozen films out this year, so it looks like she's going for quantity over quality and it often only requires one breakthrough to establish yourself.

    She may well disappear, I haven't seen enough of her work to guess whether she has enough talent to succeed long term, but she has a distinctive look and is a tabloid favourite at the moment.

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    I think Ridely Scott did a good job with Ripley.
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    Attention seeker says something stupid. News at 11.

    Action movies lack (good) female protagonists, comic books lack (good) female protagonists, videogames lack (good) female protagonists.
    I mean not really for any of those three things. Its only true when people start parsing out why this or that female character suddenly doesn't count for X reason to make it seem like there aren't any.

    Especially video games. My god am I sick of hearing that demonstrably false line repeated. There are so many amazing female protagonist or NPCs that don't get the respect they deserve by claims there aren't any good ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matte75 View Post
    I think Ridely Scott did a god job with Ripley.
    Yeah, she's probably the ultimate model for a female hero.
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    She is right on and good for her, I agree and as her work goes on hopefully if she obtains any real status she will work to make changes in Hollywood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mall Security View Post
    She is right on and good for her, I agree and as her work goes on hopefully if she obtains any real status she will work to make changes in Hollywood.
    So you're saying there's no strong female characters in movies/comics?

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    Sure, comic books and video games have suffered from a lack of strong female characters in the past, but fucking look at this year's E3? How many female protagonists were there? Quite a bit. People expect change that takes time to happen immediately. All it matters is that progress is being made and I can definitely see the progress.

    Regardless, I doubt she has very much experience with the topic she's talking about. There are more and more female comic book and video game characters every year. They just haven't been around long enough to reach icon status like Superman or Wonder Woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    I mean not really for any of those three things. Its only true when people start parsing out why this or that female character suddenly doesn't count for X reason to make it seem like there aren't any.

    Especially video games. My god am I sick of hearing that demonstrably false line repeated. There are so many amazing female protagonist or NPCs that don't get the respect they deserve by claims there aren't any good ones.
    I'm not saying there aren't any, but there aren't nearly as many as male protagonists. Now, how many of those male protagonists are actually interesting three-dimensional characters? What kind of stories are they in? Quantity/quality, that kind of thing.

    Still, the safest way to create a [X] character is for the writers to be [X] themselves. Nowadays anyone can write a webcomic, a book or create an indie videogame. If you feel like you lack representation, represent yourself.

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    Now, how many of those male protagonists are actually interesting three-dimensional characters? What kind of stories are they in? Quantity/quality, that kind of thing.
    There are also a ton of them that are meathead canon fodder or one-dimensional jock idiots. Quality over quantity indeed. The claim that there are so many more good, three-dimension male characters over female ones has been repeated so often without any actual proof, or measure of what is "good" or three-dimensional that it's become just an accepted belief with no facts to support it. I'm not saying there are more well-designed female characters than male ones. I'd just like people to actually show some kind of concrete source to support the claim rather than snort and say, "Well of course there are." Which we both know a lot of people do. And virtually every single person who uses this idea to say we need to change games because of this "fact."

    Also this idea that we should forcefully try to get some weird 50/50 identical amount of good male and female characters is stupid. Let people develop characters the way they want. The good ones will rise to the top. Male or female. Just like you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppincaps View Post
    Sure, comic books and video games have suffered from a lack of strong female characters in the past, but fucking look at this year's E3? How many female protagonists were there? Quite a bit. People expect change that takes time to happen immediately. All it matters is that progress is being made and I can definitely see the progress.

    Regardless, I doubt she has very much experience with the topic she's talking about. There are more and more female comic book and video game characters every year. They just haven't been around long enough to reach icon status like Superman or Wonder Woman.
    TBF the NO STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS IN COMICS is an outdated and insulting comment only true 50 years ago. Saying there's NO STRONG FEMALE CHARACTERS is incredibly ignorant and completely pisses all over well established characters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    She's taking a well trodden path of trying to be a little bit edgy/controversial to get herself noticed, it's worked for her so far and will possibly continue to do so until she's established. It's quite hard to be taken seriously in acting or music when you've started out as a catwalk model, so it's an understandable route.

    I saw her on Graham Norton recently and she comes across as a rather desperate attenion seeker, it was in stark comparison to Emilia Clarke who seemed to be a typical Middle Class girl from the Home Counties.
    I was thinking this, too. I'd go further to say that buzzwords like "sexism" allow someone who has peaked in their early twenties by wearing clothes and having her photo taken to at least appear smart to anybody who isn't interested or sufficiently keen-eyed to scratch beneath the surface and spot a rank poseur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    I'm not saying there aren't any, but there aren't nearly as many as male protagonists. Now, how many of those male protagonists are actually interesting three-dimensional characters? What kind of stories are they in? Quantity/quality, that kind of thing.

    Still, the safest way to create a [X] character is for the writers to be [X] themselves. Nowadays anyone can write a webcomic, a book or create an indie videogame. If you feel like you lack representation, represent yourself.
    I would say its currently 30/70

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK923 View Post
    Uhhh there are also a ton of them that are meathead canon fodder or one-dimensional jock idiots. Quality over quantity indeed.

    Also this idea that we should forcefully try to get some weird 50/50 identical amount of good male and female characters is stupid. Let people develop characters the way they want. The good ones will rise to the top. Male or female.
    That's exactly what I'm saying. The elephant in the room being, maybe female action characters aren't succesful because... women aren't into action as much? Unless they expect men to suddenly like their female characters and potentially terrible male characters, which is exactly the same thing they were complaining about in the first place.

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    You don't need to be female to write good female characters though, there's enough historical evidence stating so

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    So you're saying there's no strong female characters in movies/comics?
    Not at all, but I would say they are too few and far between, but then again I am also a guy, so there is always going to be some part of her point of view she is coming from that I'll not completely understand.

    I mean I don't even know her process for saying all of what she said and I certainly haven't determined that by the bit she went on about there. The point is despite whatever I think many women might not consider Ripley a very strong female character, and I am open minded enough to consider that's a possibility.
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