Benefits baby machine Cheryl Prudham has her 12th child on the taxpayer

[apples]

Again, those are reasons to just go ahead and NOT have 12 children. >.>

So the criticism is perfectly valid.

except im pretty sure she had a doctor present when she was having her "expensive surgery"

so im pretty sure they delved deeper into the issue than "it hurts waaaaah" and that you have no idea what youre talking about

[Sliske]

Apparently getting £72,000 a year in benefits. Isn't that a pilots wage? They took a £7,000 trip to Menorca last year apparently.

She was homeless too when she had her first kid. It is no doubt at all that she saw the house and money she got from having 1 kid and thought hey what about 2, or 3, or X

[Puremallace]

Are you complaining about the money being spent on C-Sections? Cause, ummm, being in labor and giving birth fucking hurts and people don't all have the same pain tolerance. If you have the option to be given a C-Section, I see no reason not to take it. Even if you don't find it painful, a woman is often times given a choice of how she wants to deliver and she has that right to choose - so long as there's no complications to stop it.

C-section in the US is about 30,000 just a heads up lol

[Geary]

the social contract is a pretty good answer to your question.

only need to take phil 101 for it as well

Even assuming that in this case, the state is adequately doing the will of the people, which I don't necessarily take for granted, you are implying that any conceivable use of collected taxes is good. That is clearly not the case. The state is an actor that can do harm, as well as good.

[The Stormbringer]

Nice looking family.

Lol! Most of the family looks ordinarily awkward and/or unhappy... but the daughter in the pink and spotted pants is posing like a model. I don't know why this amuses me.

EDIT: The government should really just cut off funding to people who are obviously abusing the system like this.

[belfpala]

I found a quarter on the sidewalk yesterday. Damn, those sidewalks must be loaded. Going quarter hunting again today.

[Deleted]

Here we have it, the one extreme outlier case that somehow proves all people on benefits are scroungers...

Typical Daily Fail nonsense, 'look at this woman and her family, judge her, JUDGE HER!!

We should all be up in arms about this rare case representing roughly 0.000003% of the child benefits bill, just ignore the fact Greece is about to go under owing our banks roughly the same amount as the entire child benefits bill.

Anyway, just forget everything about this because there are more important things to worry about, there are a lot of female celebs that need to be judged on how they look in a bikini on the beach. The Daily Fail is an important bastion of journalism you know!

[Dextroden]

And?

Women should always be able to decide what type of delivery they want, so long as there isn't any complications with it.

And someone else foots the bill.

[Deleted]

On your dime perhaps, but not on someone else's. There is no "right" to spend other people's money.

Oh, and what did you do about the trillions given to bankers? Let me guess - (altogether now) THAT'S different. Fucking hypocrisy on the right makes me vomit.

[pateuvasiliu]

Are you complaining about the money being spent on C-Sections? Cause, ummm, being in labor and giving birth fucking hurts and people don't all have the same pain tolerance. If you have the option to be given a C-Section, I see no reason not to take it. Even if you don't find it painful, a woman is often times given a choice of how she wants to deliver and she has that right to choose - so long as there's no complications to stop it.

* Flashbacks to thread saying fat people should pay more because they cost the state more *

Why should my taxpayer money go towards c-sections? No one forces you to give birth and no one forces you to choose a c-section, pay for it yourself.

[Deleted]

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Typical Daily Fail nonsense, 'look at this woman and her family, judge her, JUDGE HER!!

This from a paper that supported a fascist takeover of the country. The journalists and their propietor should all have been hanged as traitors, which ironically would have happened had the sort of person who reads the Daily Mail actually been in charge.

[Geary]

It ceased being other people's money the moment they paid their taxes. A C-section doesn't cost the taxpayer anything, because that money was no longer yours in the first place - you're still paying the same amount of tax regardless of anyone's medical situation.

It makes no difference to the treasury either, since their coffers are always far overstocked. Literally the only thing that changed is a number on a government computer screen. There is no tangible effect.

Implicit in your argument is the idea that the government needed that money to begin with. Taxes can be raised or lowered.

[Endus]

And someone else foots the bill.

You're saying that like it's somehow a condemnation, but those of us who've grown up under universal health care pretty much just accept that this is exactly how it should be.

The same way someone else foots the bill for your security personnel, in the form of the local police.
Or the same way someone else foots the bill for saving you and your house when a fire breaks out, through the fire department.

[Dextroden]

You're saying that like it's somehow a condemnation, but those of us who've grown up under universal health care pretty much just accept that this is exactly how it should be.

The same way someone else foots the bill for your security personnel, in the form of the local police.
Or the same way someone else foots the bill for saving you and your house when a fire breaks out, through the fire department.

Emergency services>Elective surgery.

[Geary]

Oh, and what did you do about the trillions given to bankers? Let me guess - (altogether now) THAT'S different. Fucking hypocrisy on the right makes me vomit.

I'd like to meet this straw man you're arguing with, because I don't support that either. It must be so clean, living in a black and white world where people fit your conveniently simple caricatures.

[Mandrace]

Oh my God.

Cheaper by the Dozen anyone?

[Endus]

Emergency services>Elective surgery.

C-sections generally aren't elective surgery. Nor does universal health care only cover emergency services, in the first place.

[belfpala]

You're saying that like it's somehow a condemnation, but those of us who've grown up under universal health care pretty much just accept that this is exactly how it should be.

The same way someone else foots the bill for your security personnel, in the form of the local police.
Or the same way someone else foots the bill for saving you and your house when a fire breaks out, through the fire department.

Just to be fair, I'm not mugging myself, and I'm not setting fire to my own house. I understand the analogy, of course.

[Endus]

Just to be fair, I'm not mugging myself, and I'm not setting fire to my own house. I understand the analogy, of course.

The fire department's absolutely going to come save you and your house even if it's you that accidentally started a grease fire in the kitchen. Hell, even if it was you who committed deliberate arson; they'll figure that bit out AFTER the house and everyone is saved, if possible.

[Dextroden]

C-sections generally aren't elective surgery. Nor does universal health care only cover emergency services, in the first place.

You're the one who brought up paying for police and firefighters. Sorry I value emergency services over C sections that are unnecessary if you control your baby making habits.

But okay. I have some foot troubles after my work. Buy me some custom fitted gel soles.