Whats wrong with offending illegal immigrants?

[Zeta333]

Have to ask iv seen uproar the past few days about illegals being offended by this and that. How they want the right to vote, they want government assistance, i even remember somthing a few years ago about a bill that was up that said that the official language of america is english and the illegals got mad that it wasnt spanish.

SO my question is why do they have the right to demand someone or somthing in the government change? THey are not citizens, they have no legal right to vote or for government assistance. They are here illegally and should worry about becoming a citizen if they want to stay
. So why is it so bad to offend them?

Keep in mind i know there is a portion that are becoming legal but i also know there is a good amount that dont plan to ever do that.

[Deleted]

What did the person in question say?

[Chirri]

Are we talking about offending people, or are we actually talking about insulting people?

[Felya]

What's the difference in offending illegal immigrants and anyone else?

[Natureseer]

did you type out and post this thread within 30 seconds of hearing and/or reading something relating to this subject that upset you? like thats just the vibe im getting here.

[Felya]

did you type out and post this thread within 30 seconds of hearing and/or reading something relating to this subject that upset you? like thats just the vibe im getting here.

Trump nonsense I'm sure... We need more threads on it...

[drwelfare]

Having worked construction yelling at them to drop your tools seems to offend them, in fact you being there at all does

[Sky High]

is this another defending Trump thread? there's nothing inherently wrong with it either way. what you are really asking is why you should face any repercussions for doing so. which really isn't up to you or me but the people you're offending, and they can react as they see fit.

[Deleted]

Illegal immigrants shouldn't get anything barring a one way plane ticket back home. Yet here they are, pounding at the gates of the western world, making demands like we owe them something and asking us to bend over to their standards and culture while their very first act on our soil was the break the law.

Very few of them are genuine refugees, as most just come here for economic reasons. Our politicians preach tolerance while the very people who want in have none for others. This leads to resentment by the locals which in turn leads to rising extremism on both sides, and that leads to rising far-right nationalism.

Are we talking about offending people, or are we actually talking about insulting people?

What about offending the natives? What about the british/french people harassed on the street by muslim militia who set up sharia law zones? What about the austrians who have to watch muslim immigrants vandalize churches because other religions offends them?
Heck, everything about or culture and lifestyle offends them, yet nobody cares about it because apparently being tolerant means bending over to the demands of uneducated immigrants.
The word tolerance has been twisted by Political Correctness to the point that any objection to foreign elements is evil and must be destroyed.

[PC2]

The US doesn't have a Mexican border so I really don't see how they are illegal.

[Chain Chungus]

New Mexico says hello!

[Spiffums]

Just look at how other civilized countries handle foreign invaders......or better yet just sneak into Mexico and see what happens to you. They should all be tagged and shipped back.

[Felya]

Just look at how other civilized countries handle foreign invaders......or better yet just sneak into Mexico and see what happens to you. They should all be tagged and shipped back.

But, then who would you blame for prices going up? We know it's not the people hiring them... So, who can we possibly blame!?

[PC2]

But, then who would you blame for prices going up? We know it's not the people hiring them... So, who can we possibly blame!?

Technology is to blame. With better machines we would need less field workers.

[Endus]

Just look at how other civilized countries handle foreign invaders

Pretty typically, they just get deported.

The big difference in the USA is that your federal and state policies are designed to foster and encourage illegal immigration, however much you verbalize otherwise. Little to no punishment for employers of illegal immigrants, loose employment restrictions allowing for easy under-the-table employment, etc.

Canada largely doesn't have an illegal immigration problem for exactly this reason; our laws make it really difficult to work under the table when you aren't here legally. As an example, if you're working as a nanny for, say, $26k/year, your employers are gonna have to explain where that $26k went in their own tax claims, plus they can't claim the childcare if they're paying you under the table.

The same patterns aren't true in the USA, precisely because so many industries are heavily reliant on illegal immigrant labor.


More generally to the topic; illegal immigrants are people just as much as anyone else. That means they have just as might right to humane treatment as anyone, and have the same human rights as citizens do. What they lack are citizens' rights, which would be things like the right to bear arms, in the USA, or the right to vote. Neither of which is really at issue when discussing this subject.

[Zeta333]

More generally to the topic; illegal immigrants are people just as much as anyone else. That means they have just as might right to humane treatment as anyone, and have the same human rights as citizens do. What they lack are citizens' rights, which would be things like the right to bear arms, in the USA, or the right to vote. Neither of which is really at issue when discussing this subject.

But they have no right to anything within or from the government including a vote, There are legal ways to emigrate and they should follow those ways.


This isnt a defending trump, hes just brought to light again a issue i could never understand and thats illegals getting pissed when someone says somthing like " ship them all back" "they have no rights in our country" and they raise hell, i think arizona got shit because they wanted a proof of citizenship when voting and the illegals said thats discriminating against them.

[nobody387]

So why is it so bad to offend them?

Bottom line? The liberals that own the media for all intense purposes support and defend them. Because they
end up with driver licenses etc. on voter rolls for the democratic party.

[Chain Chungus]

Bottom line? The liberals that own the media for all intense purposes support and defend them. Because they
end up with driver licenses etc. and hopefully on voter rolls for the democratic party.

I wasn't aware liberals own Fox News, KNRS, or The Blaze.

[PC2]

But they have no right to anything within or from the government including a vote, There are legal ways to emigrate and they should follow those ways.

That is up to the government, it has the power. People like Bush and Obama don't give a shit about the law and coming to America legally. Hence amnesty.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

That is up to the government, it has the power. People like Bush and Obama don't give a shit about the law and coming to America legally. Hence amnesty.

If they didn't Obama would be doing a hell of a lot worse but go ahead and act like Obama is Stalin.