What will likely be the LFR cockblock boss in HFC?

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During every previous tier, there was always this one boss that turns out to be completely overtuned on LFR, or where the tactics totally don't fit LFR and most groups wiped at least several times before they were nerfed. So far, these were:

T13: Spine of Deathwing, possibly Ultraxion if your tanks didn't know how to use their EAB;
T14: Garalon, possibly Amber Shaper Unsok if your players really suck at interrupting;
T15: Durumu, Council if you didn't split DPS properly.
T16: Nazgrim, Thok, Garrosh, Paragons, ... basically half the instance.
T17: Iron Maidens, Kromog, although neither were as extreme as the MoP bosses.

I wonder if there will be any boss in T18 that can compete with the MoP bosses in how they are overtuned or a poor fit for LFR, or if they're all going to be as trivial as those in T17.

[Deja Thoris]

T17 is almost tourist mode in lfr. I'm not sure it's worth distinguishing between "complete faceroll" and "faceroll".

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T17 is almost tourist mode in lfr. I'm not sure it's worth distinguishing between "complete faceroll" and "faceroll".

basically this, they went completly overboard with the dumbing down in LFR in WoD, the difference between Kormrok LFR and Normal even is laughable, in normal the pools empower one of his 3 main abilities, in LFR a pool allows him to use 1 of the 3, just lol.

So I imagine bosses like Iskar will be incredibly dumbed down aswell, the eye might barely be a thing, if at all.

[apoe]

Maybe mannoroth, depending if the fear is a 1shot kill if no one stacks, because no one will stack.

I don't think there will be any LFR killers this tier, unlike elegon's disappearing floor.

[Kioshi]

No boss in this expansion`s lfr is close to previous lfr. I remember how toxic lfr was, witg people yelling at each other, now its just boring.

[Herecius]

Maybe mannoroth, depending if the fear is a 1shot kill if no one stacks, because no one will stack.

I don't think there will be any LFR killers this tier, unlike elegon's disappearing floor.

The fear isn't even a one-shot kill on normal, and even on heroic you can just CD it and survive alone. I can't imagine it'll be threatening at all in lfr. The only genuinely threatening thing will be being knocked off by felseeker, I imagine, since I doubt the shadowforce pushback will be noticeable, given how weak it is on normal.

I've actually got a feeling Socrethar will be an extreme clusterfuck on LFR.

[Leyre]

council and gorefiend so far

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iskar and tyrant prob

[muto]

the queue for sure

[Dyra]

Iskar's eye will involve too much organisation, so like the flamethrowers on Brackenspore, the mechanic will probably be there, but utterly pointless.

Wiped more than a few times on Iron Reaver which has been odd.

Otherwise, Tyrant maybe, but then LFR groups are notorious for standing still and tunnelling, so perhaps not. Xhul'horac has potential. All that fire after all. Even if it will eventually grow so far it meets its counterpart and annihilates, there's still the growing and covering the floor part first. Socrethar might be to start with, but eventually after a few wipes enough people will get it into their heads to kill the necessary adds. Mannoroth and Archimonde will probably wipe everyone more than a few times for good measure too.

council and gorefiend so far

Would not have suspected those two. Guess I'll find out later.

[testsubjectzz]

The end bosses all required a few wipes. Imp was not as bad as blackhand. I have seen at least 4 stacks of determination on Blackhand, so I imagine that Archimonde will be a wipefest too.

[Cayru]

The end bosses all required a few wipes. Imp was not as bad as blackhand. I have seen at least 4 stacks of determination on Blackhand, so I imagine that Archimonde will be a wipefest too.

I agree. Most likely Archimonde for the reason above. It'll be interesting to see though.

[makiiholic]

Definitely Xhul'horac. No matter how dumb down the fights are, if people keep standing in fire, shadow, or both lol, people gonna dieeeeeeee.

If all else, Archi will be a wipefest too.

[Overdispersion]

basically this, they went completly overboard with the dumbing down in LFR in WoD, the difference between Kormrok LFR and Normal even is laughable, in normal the pools empower one of his 3 main abilities, in LFR a pool allows him to use 1 of the 3, just lol.

So I imagine bosses like Iskar will be incredibly dumbed down aswell, the eye might barely be a thing, if at all.

It's even barely a thing in normal, at least for the phantasmal winds.

[Okacz]

Did half of HFC LFR once. The group wiped on Iron Reaver. Twice.

The mechanics don't need to be difficult, having a party of 25 garrison gimps geared up with Baleful Gear makes anything diffficult.

[Foj]

The end bosses all required a few wipes. Imp was not as bad as blackhand. I have seen at least 4 stacks of determination on Blackhand, so I imagine that Archimonde will be a wipefest too.

Nothing will ever be worse than LFR Nazgrim. The first couple of weeks it was not doable with the DPS available in LFR without about 6 stacks of determination. You could execute however you liked but the boss was not going down without a massive determination buff. I don't know where the fuck they got that tuning from. They nerfed it, and nerfed it some more, and nerfed it some more again, and eventually it was just a minor cockblock.

When I started doing Flex (with very "average" pugs) I was shocked how much easier (and faster!) the first two wings were than in LFR. It really was difficult to one-shot a whole bunch of bosses in SoO LFR, and I stayed the hell away from the last two wings.

I've only cleared about 2/3 the wings of LFR this expansion ... there's a horrible, dull as fuck vibe in there, just a bunch of people who've done it countless times already on higher difficulties farming for the legendary, no one interested in the instance for any other reason.

[Cytus]

Definitely Xhul'horac. No matter how dumb down the fights are, if people keep standing in fire, shadow, or both lol, people gonna dieeeeeeee.

If all else, Archi will be a wipefest too.

No way they implement the Twisting Nether phase on LFR

[meroko]

Constructs and not leaving the belly BOTH 1 shot you (construct aoe one shots you too) in LFR for Gorefiend. Despite telling people how to get out of the stomach and what to do with constructs, people just mindlessly target Gorefiend and half the read is dead before the first feast of souls. It's kind of funny how non LFR friendly that fight is. I personally enjoy it because people are like 'WTF WHY'D I DIE' and I'm just in the corner eating a snickers.

[Sxq]

Constructs and not leaving the belly BOTH 1 shot you (construct aoe one shots you too) in LFR for Gorefiend. Despite telling people how to get out of the stomach and what to do with constructs, people just mindlessly target Gorefiend and half the read is dead before the first feast of souls. It's kind of funny how non LFR friendly that fight is. I personally enjoy it because people are like 'WTF WHY'D I DIE' and I'm just in the corner eating a snickers.

LOL can't wait to see this later. If it's really that bad I fully expect stomach to be nerfed to teleporting you outside safely when the timer runs out instead of insta killing you or something.

[Lylium]

Constructs and not leaving the belly BOTH 1 shot you (construct aoe one shots you too)

Nah, the constructs only do 100k on LFR. The belly debuff does 1.5m though, so that's a definite 1-shot.

Kilrogg was the hardest for the group I tanked this morning. The other tank had literally no idea what he was doing and pulled before I even had a chance to even attempt to explain the fight. And only a single group managed to get into the Vision on both of the next pulls.

We had 2 stacks of determination before Kilrogg went down. Council was 1-shot and Gorefiend was 1-shot.

I had done the fights before on Normal, but not as a tank.