Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Paula Deen]

I think what Paula was saying is that the exp given vs the time/effort to complete and turn in them isn't worth it based on the exp granted from Legion startings.

Well sort of. More along the lines of, being launch night I expect disconnects (pesky IoT Portal) and because of the disconnects I usually try and stick to things that can be done nearly instantly. Garrison Table Dailies and the Missives are a good idea. I think Tanaan, even the first batch of dailies you get a day, are not worth it due to the disconnects that are probably gonna happen. Hopping from Garrison to Dalaran? Easy enough. Hopping from Garrison to Ashran to Tanaan to Dalaran? Probably gonna have at least one disconnect in there.

You could also argue, purely from a math standpoint, that yes, the time effort put into them is just not worth it at all either, referring to the Garrison ones of course.

@Paula Deen @Terran double check when you quote!

I didn't see the /s till after I already replied. It was too late. It was always too late.

[Project 501D13R]

why are so many people obsessing over gathering up warlords dailies and turning them in for massed exp, with the treasure addon, and dungeons mixed with questing, you can easily get to level 110 and still have enough storyline quests left over to get yourself a decent set of starting gear to push you into heroics if you get lucky with quest upgrades.

[Paula Deen]

why are so many people obsessing over gathering up warlords dailies and turning them in for massed exp, with the treasure addon, and dungeons mixed with questing, you can easily get to level 110 and still have enough storyline quests left over to get yourself a decent set of starting gear to push you into heroics if you get lucky with quest upgrades.

Its about speed. Nothing more or less.

[Raiju]

For what it's worth - if you want absolute minmax I recommend the garrison, but given how legion content stands I see no real reason to actually. I'm just going to go straight into legion so I can work on getting all the zones completed (which will be after I hit 110 regardless)

No sneaky /s' here

[neck deep]

i see the /s but to be fair, yes, i did try them. missives reward 22k xp. daily dungeon quests from saurfang reward 30k xp. completing them prior to launch and then turning them in can get you almost half a level, if you manage to start doing them in advance early enough to get 25 ready to go. 22k is as good as the average legion quest reward, so still worth it imo.

Well I haven't bothered doing a test run so I can't really know tbh. I don't think I'd enter a single portal, I'd just fly to each apexis area, kill 1-2 mobs to get completion then fly to the next one. It shouldn't take that long. And it mostly interests me because you want to spend some time on your class hall as soon as you hit 101 so getting there before you get in the pace of doing quests in Broken Isles would imo be ideal.

no reason to do that. just have them completed before hand and turn the quest in. missives don't auto complete when you're finished with the progress bar.

[Saracens]

Its about speed. Nothing more or less.

For what it's worth - if you want absolute minmax I recommend the garrison, but given how legion content stands I see no real reason to actually. I'm just going to go straight into legion so I can work on getting all the zones completed (which will be after I hit 110 regardless)

No sneaky /s' here

Pathfinder is something to think about as well. I mean, doing EVERY quest in the new zones is all but mandatory if you want to complete that, so might as well just go balls deep in the Isles.

[Phunkle]

Soooo, Legion legendarys can be transmogged into other stuff and vice versa. Now that's a break in rules I didn't expect.

[Saracens]

Soooo, Legion legendarys can be transmogged into other stuff and vice versa. Now that's a break in rules I didn't expect.

Not a huge shock to be honest. For a good while everyone's going to be running around with the same skins on them, so I get it. Plus...transmogs... need colors.

[Phunkle]

Not a huge shock to be honest. For a good while everyone's going to be running around with the same skins on them, so I get it. Plus...transmogs... need colors.

I was talking about legendary items, not artifacts.

[Paula Deen]

Soooo, Legion legendarys can be transmogged into other stuff and vice versa. Now that's a break in rules I didn't expect.

They are all reskins of old items, so its no surprise that it works in either direction.

[Phunkle]

They are all reskins of old items, so its no surprise that it works in either direction.

But at the end of the day they are labled as legendaries. No matter how they look, blizz never wanted people to mog their stuff into legendary appearences. I thought that was worth noting.

[Imnick]

But at the end of the day they are labled as legendaries. No matter how they look, blizz never wanted people to mog their stuff into legendary appearences. I thought that was worth noting.

It's applied to the old legendaries because of their distinctive appearance as badges of honour.
That isn't true of these newer items, which don't even look unique.

Blizzard has no reason to block transmog into item apparances that you could obtain without obtaining the legendary.

You can't say that they applied this rule "no matter how they look" because this is the first time a legendary has had an appearance that wasn't unique. Clearly that is where the exception to the rule exists.

[Tartys]

"If you want to maintain multiple specs at at high level, it will take a similar amount of effort as you would have put in with another expansion"

I am seriusly worried for the artifact system. It's only to me seems - as it is now - a huge bullshit?
Look like we are force to use a single spec! Why Blizzard dont undertand how crucials are the off spec for guilds and for the game itself? :/

Its about speed. Nothing more or less.

What advantage give to you?
I mean Legion is a bit different... now the mobs are the same level as you, so even with same exp point, you are not "overpowered" and this don't help to rush...
(but the gear from HD/mithyc raid help).

The new tapping system help a lot to finishing fast the "apexis style quests", and expecially if you got a gather profession, its better gather materials soon as you enter in Broken isles.

Also you needs reputations/AP/Class hall resource for progress in Legion... so isnt better use this "speed" with Legion stuff?

Maybe this time le launch will be smoother then WoD and because we can starts in 4 difference zones, will be less crowded... maybe!

[Paula Deen]

"If you want to maintain multiple specs at at high level, it will take a similar amount of effort as you would have put in with another expansion"

I am seriusly worried for the artifact system. It's only to me seems - as it is now - a huge bullshit?
Look like we are force to use a single spec! Why Blizzard dont undertand how crucials are the off spec for guilds and for the game itself? :/





What advantage give to you?
I mean Legion is a bit different... now the mobs are the same level as you, so even with same exp point, you are not "overpowered" and this don't help to rush...
(but the gear from HD/mithyc raid help).

The new tapping system help a lot to finishing fast the "apexis style quests", and expecially if you got a gather profession, its better gather materials soon as you enter in Broken isles.

Also you needs reputations/AP/Class hall resource for progress in Legion... so isnt better use this "speed" with Legion stuff?

Maybe this time le launch will be smoother then WoD and because we can starts in 4 difference zones, will be less crowded... maybe!

I have no intent to really play with the old quests this time around. I was just saying why people do it.

[Saracens]

I was talking about legendary items, not artifacts.

Gotcha, I must have misread, my bad. Seems interesting, I've not looked closely at their models yet so I can't comment.

[Deleted]

They are all reskins of old items, so its no surprise that it works in either direction.

Esteemed Paula, speaking of reskins. Would you have a new avatar ready to celebrate the prepatch? Maybe with some fel green? The current one is, as always, exquisite, but we've been enjoying it for quite a while, so a new one would be a great touch.

[Saracens]

Esteemed Paula, speaking of reskins. Would you have a new avatar ready to celebrate the prepatch? Maybe with some fel green? The current one is, as always, exquisite, but we've been enjoying it for quite a while, so a new one would be a great touch.

You've got something on your nose.

[rcshaggy]

me neither ;_;

And I don't care if I haven't gotten in yet...Would be nice though.

[Paula Deen]

Esteemed Paula, speaking of reskins. Would you have a new avatar ready to celebrate the prepatch? Maybe with some fel green? The current one is, as always, exquisite, but we've been enjoying it for quite a while, so a new one would be a great touch.

I haven't had time to make edits for like 2 years. Its why it hasn't changed... that and I reformatted and lost everything except the current avatar I have, which I don't even think is an edit, just some google image.

[Imnick]

What will you give in return for your butter...