The last one can be debated also... (and the first one can also be debated... hey... is a question that have always been asked for a reason)
No, the only god is not Sargeras, he's a mere Titan, if he were a God then you will have to count all the others Titans as gods, also... we have the OLD GODS, so yeah... no, sorry Sargeras
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Sargeras shits on Old 'Gods'. He's the only true God.
'A King that needs to call himself a King is no King at all.'
replace king with God for topkeks
but yes the last one is totally up to debate, it's just since WoD sucks so hard I don't want it to be true lol
now stop derailing the thread you little monster
They do not call themselves Old Gods, we call them Old Gods
It was not that bad (well... i didn't play it so i can't say much:P)but yes the last one is totally up to debate, it's just since WoD sucks so hard I don't want it to be true lol
Sorry, we were talking about religion (kind of) and your signature was perfect for the moment :Pnow stop derailing the thread you little monster
What happens with us after we die?
Different religions and philosophies have different answers ranging from an external reward (if you are good and/or confess your undying love for the correct diety) to coming back as a new person (or an animals if you weren't good) to nothingness. Since no one ever comes back from those situations, it is nothing more than guess work. Pick your favorite choice and enjoy.
Are we alone in the universe?
Almost certainly not. Is there intelligent life out there that can relate to us? Probably, but they would have as much difficulty getting to us as we would getting to them. Much more advanced civilizations probably don't see us as any better than we view bugs (intelligent, but not that intelligent), so they wouldn't relate to us at all.
What is heaven or hell? Do they really exists? Who is supposed to judge us?
This boils done to only some religions. No one can ever really tell you if they really exist (if it does exist and you get there, you can't come back to verify it with the rest of us). The ultimate deity of your religion is the one that is supposed to judge us. Again, pick your favorite end-of-life concept and enjoy.
Does parallel universes exist?
Mathematically, they should exist. However, mathematics doesn't always mean that it is how things actually work. However, smart people are trying to figure it out, so we will likely have real answers to that question at some point in the future (unlike heaven/hell which will never be proven one way or another).
1. We get eaten by worms and integrated into the environment again.
2. Probably not alone, although the chances of making contact with aliens are almost zero due to the size of the universe.
3. Heaven and hell are human constructs due to fear of the unknown. They don't exist. Judgement is also a human construct.
4. If you are talking about "movie parallel universes" then most likely no. If by that you mean universes with different rules of physics or spatial dimensions, then probably yes.
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Indeed, many people overestimate how much of the universe we have actually seen. We have seen very little of it. All those planets we've found? We have no way of actually looking at them directly right now. Hell, it took a flyby probe that made a decade long journey just to catch a glimpse of our distant dwarf planet, and that's in our solar system. The exoplanets aren't visible to use, we only know they're there by the visible and gravitational effects they have on their host stars. We can make some inferences on those planets, but nothing that can indicate whether or not life is on them. Beyond our own galaxy, everything is too distant for us to know what is truly out there. There could be billions of civilizations at our level out there, and it would be next to impossible to find them. Our own radiowaves have only gone 200 lightyears (or so) and our galaxy is 100,000 light years across, the nearest one is 2.5 million LY away and our universe (as far as we can see) is 93 billion LY across. The universe might be teeming with life and we wouldn't know right now.
As to the rest:
What happens when we die? Likely, it's the reverse of being born. Your awareness just shuts off to never come on again. And that's it. Afterlife? Reincarnation? Who knows, but I see no reason to believe in such things.
What is heaven and hell? Mythical places described by ancient shamans and priests in order to make people behave, by promising reward or punishment for behavior during life
Do parallel universes exist? Well, physics says they might, but there's no hard evidence that they do.
Putin khuliyo
Apparently when I was a kid I asked all sorts of unanswerable questions, like "Why is grass?" and "How is car?". I just think I didn't end my sentences that.
"These so called speed humps are a joke. If anything, they slow you down. "
When it comes to the afterlife, or lack of it, I think there's more to it than religion at play. Or, at the very least, people think their rationalizations have little to do with religion.
Note how civilization after civilization, most people have developed ideas and rituals around death. We can trace it back to behavioral modernity.
Many atheists think that religions are but unchallenged continuation of tradition. In that paradigm religion is not inherent to the human nature, and we should all be able to reject it eventually as cultural mores change. Yet the question remains, what is then inherent to human nature?: questioning the afterlife sounds like a sufficiently de-dramatized one, as opposed to "does god exist?". Because otherwise, we'd be naturally -or evolutionarily- mandated to develop religion itself. Essentially: if there is some metaphysical aspect that we unavoidably develop, and since there is evidence that we consistently develop rituals around death, they, as atheists, prefer it to be the question of death, rather than religion itself.
Be as it may, people do, eventually, formulate the question and think it is profound. Arguably, we're bound to do so: because we're embedded in cultures with profound religious roots.
Of course, we can argue that the rituals are merely an expression of our social nature. Or that the very concept of "inherent to our nature" is unproductive (and remains as one of those receding pockets of belief: other animals do art, use tools, talk, are intelligent...). Alas, that's not a degree of consistency I'd expect from many people, atheists or not.
Pretty much.
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My only problem with Religion is that sometimes, people can't accept a "We don't know" as an answer, just because we don't have the answer of something doesn't mean the answer is God... it could be, but please... stop, it makes it looks like you're using religion as an excuse to be ignorant (IMHO Religion will need to work together with science, eventually...)
I imagine being dead is functionally the same as being not born yet, and in that state there can be no "I" and worrying about death seems a silly as worrying about the time before you were born. This question I'm fairly sure has an answer, but our fears about death and dying will keep the question alive forever.
We don't know. We've barley begun our search for alien life and given the vastness of space it might very well be an unanswerable question for a very long time. This is a question which we most likely will find an answer to, if we do find life, but given the vastness of space it also seems unlikely that we'll ever be able to say that we are alone in the universe.Are we alone in the universe?
This will involve religion, and most religion is non-falsifiable. It's also against the forum rules so we best not.What is heaven or hell? Do they really exists? Who is supposed to judge us?
Possibly. But it's most likely impossible to test if they do exist. So probably a dead end.Does parallel universes exist?
"In order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance." Paradox of tolerance
Yes, a lot of people go around calling themselves atheists when they have religious beliefs. Atheism should not == religion. The two should be separate just so the meaning the of words aren't diluted. If you call someone an atheist, it should mean "absence of belief".
And being noncommittal, isn't a black and white world so much better?
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"This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."
-- Capt. Copeland
Actually I believe we don't know, but thanks for trying to speak for me.
We've searched like 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the galaxy.•Are we alone in the universe?
I hope not but it's beginning to look that way.
That's like taking some water from the ocean into a glass and concluding there are no whales there.
That one has been answered, we spent 14 billion years not alive, after we die - we spend eternity in the same state.
By definition - we as we are cease to exist at death, after that - we as individuals cannot continue to exist (this can be shown by deduction - but not going into that here).
Pretty sure we aren't - but for all practical purposes we may as well be.
Inventions of the human mind before we understood the universe, useful constructs to explain a terrifying world.
According to some variations of the inflationary theory, pocket universes exist, however by definition the existence of true parallel universes will never be provable as existing or not existing.
The thing is, they are called "questions without answers" for a reason.
Nobody can prove beyond any questionable doubt that Parallel Universes/God/Aliens/Afterlife exists. In the end, all we have is our beliefs and the fact that people will never accept that others have different opinions from theirs.