Hello everyone!
As the title says I'm wondering how your guild is handling the forced personal loot system for BoE trash drops.
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/discuss
Hello everyone!
As the title says I'm wondering how your guild is handling the forced personal loot system for BoE trash drops.
Thank you for voting in the poll!
/discuss
Last edited by mmocfbca7f21de; 2015-07-30 at 12:16 PM.
I was thinking the same, An officer in my guild is saying 'we cant do anything about it' so handle it yourselves.. now some guildsmen are selling heroic boes on the ah (we got 3 mythic down so far) and I think itll be even more tempting for them to sell the mythic boes.. quite a few of these item are BiS for classes and I reckon itll slow progression.. this system feels rather wrong
If the person that gets it needs it, then they keep it. Otherwise we roll on it.
Or we let the Postmaster send it to us, and AH it on a sneaky alt. Who cares?
I'm not in a guild group but I think its a good design. If its a guild group then odds are you are all working together for progression, but if there's any chance that loot can be kept by the ML then it will be done so its good for random groups. I also think it is better for guilds who may need someone to join because theyre short a couple of people. It would make them feel comfortable with joining knowing they get to keep any BoE's.
Basically in a guild group it shouldn't have any effect anyway and in PuG groups it should have a beneficial effect.
The Officers in my mythic raiding guild are saying we should give them the BoE's so they can distribute. But the reality is that everyone has been keeping the items to themselves and there's nothing we can do about it. The Postmaster + Alt AH is OP.
If it's an upgrade to someone, give it to them. Else sell in AH to maintain guild repairs.
You can try to fit me in a box, only to see me burst out of it.
Casual heroic guild and everyone does whatever he wants. If it's an upgrade, equip it, if it's not, sell it on AH for gold
If it's an upgrade, keep it. If not, offer to the raid-if no one wants it, player who got it to drop is free to sell it or give it to an alt.
4, if relevant(during progress for example), othewrise those, who got the item, can do whatever they want with it.
We collect and distribute/sell. Though if this is going to be the norm going forward, I'll likely give first priority to whoever looted it.
In short, the new system is terrible for actual guilds and should be revisited. It's impossible to track unless everybody 100% loots everything, since anything gotten from the Postmaster is invisible to the guild news, so new members/trials with no attachment to the guild can easily just pocket BoEs by not looting during a raid. Not having the control over that and essentially promoting people to engage in shady tactics for relatively small amounts of gold in the grand scheme of things is just a terrible system.
Additionally, it just feels shitty to collect BoEs from people picking them up when you know it's personal loot. While it's better overall to make sure the best upgrades are happening for progression, there's just something lame about handing over a BoE that the game decided to loot to you.
The flippant attitude from Blizzard about how they pulled a fast one on greedy PUG leaders is just ignorant without letting actual raid groups override the system.
Officers collect and then distribute or sell.
Sure, you can be sneaky with postmaster and get a bit of gold. But gold is falling from the skies in this expansion, is that really worth screwing your guild over?
My guild provides all pots/flasks/gems/enchants, and bought a bunch of BoEs at the start of WoD to get everyone geared up. Of course I'm going to hand over any BoE that I get.
Like most others, when someone gets a BoE, we distribute it like it were normal boss loot (we use a modified DKP system - so basically it gets treated normally), and if no-one wants it, it goes to the officers to auction and fund guild repairs.
Before they were on personal loot, I collected BoEs that no one needed. First priority was to people in the raid who would use them on their raiding toon, but when it reached the point where no one needed them anymore, I banked the rest to sell for raid funds or to have on hand to help gear up new members or rerolls.
Since it's on personal loot this tier, I feel like an ass demanding people hand them over when the game awarded that loot specifically to them as an individual, so the rule currently is that if it's not an upgrade for the person for whom it drops, they need to offer it to raid mates for whom it is. If no one else in the raid needs it for their raiding toon, the player can do with it what they wish. That was my compromise, to make sure the raid as a whole is still benefiting from trash BoEs without making people surrender their personal loot.
I'm generally a heroic raider, although right now we're doing both heroic and normal.