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    Should FEMA Provide Aid to Baltimore For the Riots Damage?

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...801-story.html

    Im sure you guys remember the riots that burned and destroyed a portion of baltimore, so the question is should the city receive aid to pay for the damage the citizens caused?

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    Yes.

    Not sure why this is actually a question.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Yes.

    Not sure why this is actually a question.
    Why should it come from government disaster releif and not the taxes of those that caused the problem?

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    No. The city should deal with it. It was of their own making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Why should it come from government disaster releif and not the taxes of those that caused the problem?
    Did 100% of Baltimore residents participate in the riots? No? Then shush.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Did 100% of Baltimore residents participate in the riots? No? Then shush.
    You could argue the inaction of law enforcement under direct orders from the mayor resulted in far more damage than necessary to the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Why should it come from government disaster releif and not the taxes of those that caused the problem?
    What, you mean like the taxes they pay that go towards things like government disaster relief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    You could argue the inaction of law enforcement under direct orders from the mayor resulted in far more damage than necessary to the city.
    Property damage is preferable to people being injured and/or killed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Property damage is preferable to people being injured and/or killed.
    Im fine with rioters and those that try to burn down part of a city being shot or put down for those acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Im fine with rioters and those that try to burn down part of a city being shot or put down for those acts.
    Yeah, but not everyone is [insert appropriate insult about the level of your human decency here].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Im fine with rioters and those that try to burn down part of a city being shot or put down for those acts.
    And I'm fine with watching you whine as your tax dollars are put to use repairing that damage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Yeah, but not everyone is [insert appropriate insult about the level of your human decency here].
    Because its decent to burn down a town because your upset. Fuck if this is ok i guess i should get to wreck the shit out of any restraunt i go to where i have to wait for food because that upsets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Property damage is preferable to people being injured and/or killed.
    If it's preferable, why do they need FEMA aid? Or is the property damage causing a quality of life problem for the residents? I'm sure the people that lost their jobs would have been fine if a few dumbasses got dragged off in cuffs with beanbag bruises.

    Baltimore has had riots before. It took them 30 years to recover economically from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Because its decent to burn down a town because your upset.
    Property damage does not merit death, point in fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Property damage does not merit death, point in fact.
    hurt feelings does not merit property damage. Dont like the consequences dont riot and burn down a city, dont break the law. Still want to? Then deal with the shit you should get dragged through for doing it. If there is no reprecussions for commiting these crimes the fuck is supposed to deter them in the future? Oh they were upset so its ok they burned down half of baltimore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    If it's preferable, why do they need FEMA aid?
    Quote Originally Posted by Flutterguy View Post
    Baltimore has had riots before. It took them 30 years to recover economically from them.
    Was it your intention to refute your own statement? Or do you think government assistance shouldn't be used to stave off things like...I don't know...economic disaster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Then deal with the shit you should get dragged through for doing it.
    There is no way to "deal with" being killed. And the outcomes of our criminal justice system aren't limited to "innocent" or "executed."
    Last edited by s_bushido; 2015-08-02 at 09:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Was it your intention to refute your own statement? Or do you think government assistance shouldn't be used to stave off things like...I don't know...economic disaster?
    Maby the should focus more on not allowing the riots to happen rather than standby and watch packs of hooligans burn and destroy the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Was it your intention to refute your own statement? Or do you think government assistance shouldn't be used to stave off things like...I don't know...economic disaster?

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    There is no way to "deal with" being killed. And the outcomes of our criminal justice system isn't limited to "innocent" or "executed."
    They dont have to be killed, im ok with rubber bullets, beanbag guns, water cannons. I still cherish the memories of rioters in germany geting blown across the street by the water cannons when the police showed up. Right now people arnt afraid to break the law and riot, they see no reprocussions from destroyed property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    Maby the should focus more on not allowing the riots to happen
    By putting them down, amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    By putting them down, amirite?
    Police standing back with thier dicks in thier hands isnt the correct action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Was it your intention to refute your own statement? Or do you think government assistance shouldn't be used to stave off things like...I don't know...economic disaster?

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    There is no way to "deal with" being killed. And the outcomes of our criminal justice system aren't limited to "innocent" or "executed."
    FEMA is federal aid. This isn't a federal issue. That should be reserved for actual disasters not mismanagement by a city. Before you even bring it up, no I don't think Detroit deserved any kind of aid either from the Feds. Baltimore can deal with it on their own. They're supposed to have a fund for emergencies anyway. At worst, they can appeal to the governor and get aid from the state.

    But FEMA was not created for this.

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