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    Why aren't Rogues getting the Hunter treatment in Legion

    Is anyone else curious why Blizzard isn't putting a lot of attention into Rogues in their crusade to de-homogenize WoW's classes?

    Rogues have the most understated spell effects in the game. They have the least variety between specs of any class. Most of their core mechanics are borrowed, improved upon or completely copied by Feral Druids, Monks or now, DHs.

    They kind of seem like they should be a priority to keep them distinct in Legion. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

    EDIT : I meant Legion, not WoD

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    Have they confirmed there's no more class changes coming?

    They've said they intend to make rogue specs more distinct in the past.
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    Gee guys it's only been a few days since it's even been announced and they haven't talked about rogues, must mean they're neglecting them.

    :/ Come on think a little, there's more info coming and a Q&A tomorrow.

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    Inc ranged rogue spec to match melee hunters.

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    Have you by any chance got to read the class changes before the rest of us?

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    they said they wanted to change every class to have differing specs, why do you complain when we havent heard anything about the expansion

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    They figure that since 4 million people are probably gonna re-roll to DH, there won't be that many rogues left to worry about.

    Plus DH's will be extremely OP upon their release, meaning no one would pick a rogue over a DH

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    It's a bit early to tell. But going by the past: Rogue will stay the exact same they have been for the last 10 years. They haven't been touched. Ever.
    Rogues will become obsolete in PvP at least anyway with Spectral Sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Is anyone else curious why Blizzard isn't putting a lot of attention into Rogues in their crusade to de-homogenize WoW's classes?

    Rogues have the most understated spell effects in the game. They have the least variety between specs of any class. Most of their core mechanics are borrowed, improved upon or completely copied by Feral Druids, Monks or now, DHs.

    They kind of seem like they should be a priority to keep them distinct in Legion. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

    EDIT : I meant Legion, not WoD
    Rogue ranged spec with Crossbow artifact.

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    We don't know all the class changes that are coming. I suspect they'll save a lot of big Legion news for Blizzcon. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Rogues given a tank or range spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sealof1337 View Post
    they said they wanted to change every class to have differing specs, why do you complain when we havent heard anything about the expansion
    Because we already heard J. Allen say in an interview that the 3 hunter specs and demonology changes the 4 biggest spec changes planned for Legion?

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    I'm not going to give links its too late and I'm tired 4 AM here but yes, rogues are getting a range spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feali View Post
    It's a bit early to tell. But going by the past: Rogue will stay the exact same they have been for the last 10 years. They haven't been touched. Ever.
    Rogues will become obsolete in PvP at least anyway with Spectral Sight.
    I don't think we've properly seen how spectral sight is going to work is it just going to be a toggle or duration = cooldown? any cost associated with it at all?

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    Well they have mentioned how they're aware how rogue animations are pretty boring havent they? I think Death from Above was a step towards that direction, though not the best one.. I dont know, it cant be that difficult coming up with new ideas for attack animations. Maybe they just dont focus on that for rogues until it became a issue vocalized by the community. And it makes sense that they wouldnt upgrade attack animations mid expansion. I think they'll improve on it, or at least try to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickybrighteyes View Post
    I don't think we've properly seen how spectral sight is going to work is it just going to be a toggle or duration = cooldown? any cost associated with it at all?
    Rogues will never get an opener again in arena vs. Demon Hunter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirthealer View Post
    I'm not going to give links its too late and I'm tired 4 AM here but yes, rogues are getting a range spec.
    That's a pretty bold statement to make without a source.

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    Since Survival Hunters are going Melee, that also means that Black Arrrow is gone. One of the biggest barriers to Dark Rangers becoming playable was due to Survival Hunters having Black Arrrow.

    Since Hunters are getting a Melee playstyle, that means that a Ranged Rogue playstyle is within the realm of possibility. I can definitely see either Assassination or Subtlety becoming a Dark Ranger spec with Black Arrow and stealth bow-play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feali View Post
    Rogues will never get an opener again in arena vs. Demon Hunter.

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    That's a pretty bold statement to make without a source.
    I know it is, some will think I'm nuts or a troll, some will know from streamers and hints from blizzard it is true.

    I would even tell u what weapon they plan to give, but is subject to change. again no one will believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Is anyone else curious why Blizzard isn't putting a lot of attention into Rogues in their crusade to de-homogenize WoW's classes?

    Rogues have the most understated spell effects in the game. They have the least variety between specs of any class. Most of their core mechanics are borrowed, improved upon or completely copied by Feral Druids, Monks or now, DHs.

    They kind of seem like they should be a priority to keep them distinct in Legion. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

    EDIT : I meant Legion, not WoD
    they might. For the past 2 years I have been saying they need to make a hunter spec melee, make demonology warlocks focus more on summoning demons. I was right about those 2. I also said they need to make Shuriken Toss a passive for one of the specs(preferably assassination), turning the rogue into a combo generating ranged and using Deadly Throw as the finisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Is anyone else curious why Blizzard isn't putting a lot of attention into Rogues in their crusade to de-homogenize WoW's classes?

    Rogues have the most understated spell effects in the game. They have the least variety between specs of any class. Most of their core mechanics are borrowed, improved upon or completely copied by Feral Druids, Monks or now, DHs.

    They kind of seem like they should be a priority to keep them distinct in Legion. What are everyone's thoughts on this?

    EDIT : I meant Legion, not WoD
    They literally explicitly said class homogenization is a huge target for them in this xpac. Hunter was just an example as people have been asking for melee hunters to come back for a long time now, and it frankly was the easiest (bow pet, melee pet, bow no pet).

    Announcing something like "Assassination is now a ranged spec" will cause both excitement and an uproar. Changing Hunter's worst performing spec into something totally different isn't going to cause a riot.

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    Nobody gives shit about rogues anymore

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