St Albans: M1 lorry found with 18 suspected illegal immigrants

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-33840559

I hate to be that guy but I can't help but feel that despite those 18 getting caught they will still be allowed to stay. Personally I have no issue with immigration as long as it's legal, I understand the issue is complex but the number is unfortunately getting higher

[Xeones]

The article isn't clear... is a Lorry a tractor trailer?

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The article isn't clear... is a Lorry a tractor trailer?

A lorry is a lorry

[Kalis]

The article isn't clear... is a Lorry a tractor trailer?

A lorry is a haulage truck, like this red lorry...



Or this yellow lorry...

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A lorry is a haulage truck, like this red lorry...



Or this yellow lorry...

I see what you did, /bravo

[Kalis]

I see what you did, /bravo

I'm prouder of that than I really should be.

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Considering Adam's post history, I wonder when will homosexuality enter the conversation.

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Considering Adam's post history, I wonder when will homosexuality enter the conversation.

About now because you mentioned it /bravo

[Ripster42]

Those are called semis, or semi-tractor trailors in the US.

Edit: pronounced sem eyes (plural)

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Those are called semis, or semi-tractor trailors in the US.

Edit: pronounced sem eyes (plural)

Haha semi [immature laugh]

[enragedgorilla]

Is this not the same thing that happens in the US but ...if anyone says ,"Immigration is fine as long as it is the legal way" they are racist and verbally mocked and talked down to ?

Does it work differently in the UK/England/EU etc?

[Ripster42]

Is this not the same thing that happens in the US but ...if anyone says ,"Immigration is fine as long as it is the legal way" they are racist and verbally mocked and talked down to ?

Does it work differently in the UK/England/EU etc?

It's not usually just those comments that get called racist. It's everything that usually comes along with it. Mainly the unwillingness to reform our current immigration policy. They want to make a border patrol strong enough to repel the current levels of illegal immigration when we shouldn't be facing this current level of illegal immigration, we just have the process in a ridiculous state where it takes too long to fulfill our current demand for immigrant labor.

[Kronik85]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-33840559

I hate to be that guy but I can't help but feel that despite those 18 getting caught they will still be allowed to stay. Personally I have no issue with immigration as long as it's legal, I understand the issue is complex but the number is unfortunately getting higher

It's a fair point, it really is. However engage your brain for 2 minutes and think about why we can't just deport people. Ok I'll save you the effort, you can't "send people back where they came from" without knowing their country of origin. So you either need a passport to identify where they came from or you have to go off what the illegals tell you. We are not allowed to deport people to countries where they will get shrekt, so if the illegal says Syria for instance the UK government can't do fuck all but begin processing the Asylum request.

The UK is not a soft touch on immigration, we accept the fewest amount of immigrants in the EU. The problem is international law is complicated and sending people back to countries that are war zones or are likely to torture the immigrant is not a moral/legal thing to do.

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The UK is not a soft touch on immigration, we accept the fewest amount of immigrants in the EU.

You mean asylum seekers you got a ton of eastern european immigrants.

[Tierbook]

Is this not the same thing that happens in the US but ...if anyone says ,"Immigration is fine as long as it is the legal way" they are racist and verbally mocked and talked down to ?

Does it work differently in the UK/England/EU etc?

The thing about Europe is that it's more or less impossible to sneak into say England in a semi-truck as an illegal. What with England being an island and them being in the Schengen zone or whatever it's called.

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It's a fair point, it really is. However engage your brain for 2 minutes and think about why we can't just deport people. Ok I'll save you the effort, you can't "send people back where they came from" without knowing their country of origin. So you either need a passport to identify where they came from or you have to go off what the illegals tell you. We are not allowed to deport people to countries where they will get shrekt, so if the illegal says Syria for instance the UK government can't do fuck all but begin processing the Asylum request.

The UK is not a soft touch on immigration, we accept the fewest amount of immigrants in the EU. The problem is international law is complicated and sending people back to countries that are war zones or are likely to torture the immigrant is not a moral/legal thing to do.

Technically all illegal immigrants to the UK come from France, or maybe Belgium, I doubt many take the sea or air route from Africa/ME

[Kalis]

The thing about Europe is that it's more or less impossible to sneak into say England in a semi-truck as an illegal. What with England being an island and them being in the Schengen zone or whatever it's called.

Did you mean that the UK and Ireland aren't in the Schengen Area, as being in it would make it easier to come across the border unchecked, not harder and we aren't in it.

[Kronik85]

Technically all illegal immigrants to the UK come from France, or maybe Belgium, I doubt many take the sea or air route from Africa/ME

What's that got to do with anything I said? If your an immigrant Syria but entered the UK from France, that doesn't make your country of origin France.

[Shadowmelded]

The thing about Europe is that it's more or less impossible to sneak into say England in a semi-truck as an illegal. What with England being an island and them being in the Schengen zone or whatever it's called.

The UK isn't part of Schengen.

Technically all illegal immigrants to the UK come from France, or maybe Belgium, I doubt many take the sea or air route from Africa/ME

It's not technically correct, it's just plain wrong. The come through France, they come from other places like Africa and the Middle East.

[THE Bigzoman]

The UK isn't part of Schengen.



It's not technically correct, it's just plain wrong. The come through France, they come from other places like Africa and the Middle East.

I thought the EU was very permissable with immigrants. I knew illegal immigration was a thing, but I didn't know it was an issue in your politics.

Don't immigrants in the EU pretty much travel across Europe where the labor demand is needed?

[Shadowmelded]

I thought the EU was very permissable with immigrants. I knew illegal immigration was a thing, but I didn't know it was an issue in your politics.

Don't immigrants in the EU pretty much travel across Europe where the labor demand is needed?

Are you talking about illegal immigrants or economic migrants from within the EU? It's not as simple as people travelling to where there's a demand for labour as people are generally that clued up on that kind of data. It's more like immigrants from within the EU travel to where they can achieve a decent standard of living, whether that be temporarily to send money back home to a country where it will go a lot further and where it would be difficult to make that kind of money, or to stay permanently with a view to becoming citizens of that country.

Sadly we're not short of reactionary xenophobes looking to blame an "other" for their problems here in the UK so it's a bit of an issue :P Although it may be a little overstated due to the rise of UKIP and how much attention they get from the press for saying stupid things.