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    Ireland Refuses to Extradite Man to US Because Prison System is Too Inhumane

    http://theantimedia.org/cassius-meth...prison-system/

    The American prison system is so reviled, in fact, that Irish officials recently refused to extradite an alleged terrorist to the U.S. The court cited concerns that if he were sent to the U.S., he would probably be placed in Colorado’s “Supermax” prison, ADX Florence (Administrative Maximum Facility). The prison is nicknamed Colorado’s “Alcatraz of the Rockies.”
    Irish High Court Justice Aileen Donnelly went as far as to write a 333-page report about why the suspect shouldn’t be extradited. One highlight from the court’s ruling was that incarceration at ADX Florence prison would amount to “cruel and unusual punishment.”
    Donnelly said the prison “amounts to a breach of the constitutional requirement to protect persons from inhuman and degrading treatment and to respect the dignity of the human being.”

    “[P]rolonged exposure to involuntary solitary confinement exacts a significant physiological toll, is damaging to the integrity of the mind and personality, and is damaging to the bodily integrity of the person,” she continued.

    According to the Los Angeles Times, “An Irish resident originally from Algiers, Damache, 50, [is]accused of using online chat rooms to recruit American women into a would-be terrorist cell operating in this country and Europe.

    One man and two women, including Damache’s wife, have already been convicted in U.S. courts of providing material support to terrorists. And Damache was captured by Irish authorities in 2010 in Dublin on a separate charge of making a telephone death threat and held without bail.”
    In 2011, Damache was indicted from a distance in a Philadelphia court on “charges of plotting to assassinate a Swedish cartoonist who depicted the prophet Muhammad as a dog.”

    Damache was released in May after serving his time, but the U.S. is still pushing for his extradition.
    “I always had faith in the Irish legal system,” he said in a statement presented by his lawyers. “After more than five years in jail, I am looking forward to moving on with my life here.”

    The Colorado prison has held some of the most well-known criminals in American history, keeping them in solitary confinement with extremely limited access to outside communication. Notorious inmates include Timothy McVeigh and other people accused of high level terrorism—such as Zacarias Moussaoui, the only person convicted in a civilian court for involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

    Lawyers have even argued that incarceration at ADX Florence is worse than the death penalty. Defense expert Mark Bezy called it “a mechanism to cut off an inmate’s communications with the outside world.”

    The Irish court’s refusal to extradite Damache adds to a growing trend of nations that opt to exercise their own sovereignty amid pressure from powerful American influence. Such nations are increasingly moving to decide issues for themselves as they refuse to be persuaded into following the orders of a more powerful empire.

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    Lawyers have even argued that incarceration at ADX Florence is worse than the death penalty.

    Made me chuckle.
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    well they're right

    the death sentence is way better than a life sentence in a supermax prison

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    It just makes me so overjoyed when the well-being of terrorists is considered.

    Screw the homeless, fuck the poor, sucks to you sick people ...we need to be taking care of mass murdering terrorists yea!

    Fucking ...amazing ...

    This is nothing more than one of humanities plagues defending another.
    MAGA
    When all you do is WIN WIN WIN

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    Norway did a similar thing a while ago:

    Norway has refused to extradite a suspected drug smuggler to the United States, saying he might suffer inhumane conditions in an American jail. The suspect, Henry Hendriksen, 49, is an American. In 1997, he was found in Stavanger, a port in western Norway, and arrested on charges of smuggling about 50 tons of hashish into the United States. The charges were filed in Vermont. In a unanimous decision, the Norwegian Supreme Court questioned whether U.S. jails meet the humanitarian standard required for extradition under Norwegian law, sending the case back to a district court, which refused to extradite. Aug 25 1999

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    It just makes me so overjoyed when the well-being of terrorists is considered.

    Screw the homeless, fuck the poor, sucks to you sick people ...we need to be taking care of mass murdering terrorists yea!

    Fucking ...amazing ...

    This is nothing more than one of humanities plagues defending another.
    I know right!

    Oh Well, we will find a way to pay the Irish back.

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    She's not entirely wrong. There isn't much of a life after prison here. One mistake and you're pretty much fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vightnic View Post
    She's not entirely wrong. There isn't much of a life after prison here. One mistake and you're pretty much fucked.
    My biggest gripe about our law system, is that we make it so that even after someone has done there time, their record makes it damn near impossible to live a normal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    It just makes me so overjoyed when the well-being of terrorists is considered.

    Screw the homeless, fuck the poor, sucks to you sick people ...we need to be taking care of mass murdering terrorists yea!

    Fucking ...amazing ...

    This is nothing more than one of humanities plagues defending another.
    Ireland isn't saying screw the homeless, fuck the poor, or sucks to you sick people, so that doesn't really make any sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    It just makes me so overjoyed when the well-being of terrorists is considered.

    Screw the homeless, fuck the poor, sucks to you sick people ...we need to be taking care of mass murdering terrorists yea!

    Fucking ...amazing ...

    This is nothing more than one of humanities plagues defending another.
    Pretty sure Ireland does that unlike a certain country

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    I'm Irish... can I shoot the extremist fuck with my shotgun please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Ireland isn't saying screw the homeless, fuck the poor, or sucks to you sick people, so that doesn't really make any sense.
    But don't you know? Those things are mutually exclusive. If you don't fuck criminals you're fucking everyone else!

    /sarcasm
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerWolf View Post
    I'm Irish... can I shoot the extremist fuck with my shotgun please?
    Wouldn't that make you an extremist? I'm not convinced that Ireland really needs a return to violent political extremism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombergy View Post
    It just makes me so overjoyed when the well-being of terrorists is considered.

    Screw the homeless, fuck the poor, sucks to you sick people ...we need to be taking care of mass murdering terrorists yea!

    Fucking ...amazing ...

    This is nothing more than one of humanities plagues defending another.
    Where does it say they dont care about or take care of homeless, poor or sick ppl?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supertony51 View Post
    I know right!

    Oh Well, we will find a way to pay the Irish back.
    Wait, hold it, aren´t you from the country that basically takes a huge stinking dump on its own veterans? Your country doesn´t even take care of the people that "defended" it.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Wait, hold it, aren´t you from the country that basically takes a huge stinking dump on its own veterans? Your country doesn´t even take care of the people that "defended" it.
    A general trend I'm noticing is countries and places with stronger safety nets generally have "cushier" prisons. Rehabilitation works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerWolf View Post
    I'm Irish... can I shoot the extremist fuck with my shotgun please?
    Yeah but you also previously expressed xenophobic tendencies so I am putting you under N for nutty

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    Quote Originally Posted by EkaterinyaV View Post
    A general trend I'm noticing is countries and places with stronger safety nets generally have "cushier" prisons.
    If it works /shrug

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    Quote Originally Posted by EkaterinyaV View Post
    A general trend I'm noticing is countries and places with stronger safety nets generally have "cushier" prisons.
    What do you mean with trend? Look at prison populations across the world. Where are prisons filled to the top and where are prisons closing.
    Quote Originally Posted by ash
    So, look um, I'm not a grief counselor, but if it's any consolation, I have had to kill and bury loved ones before. A bunch of times actually.
    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    I never said I was knowledge-able and I wouldn't even care if I was the least knowledge-able person and the biggest dumb-ass out of all 7.8 billion people on the planet.

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    More political grandstanding from our neighbours. Nothing new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tollshot View Post
    Scotland released Al Megrahi without any repercussions from the U.S., why should this be any different?
    They sent us Trump as retribution. Talk about disproportionate retaliation...

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