9 yr old Black girl shot dead in Fergson

[Only the Best]

For example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/05/us...oll-finds.html

You can find a lot of polling to that effect.

That poll shows that more people agree that race relations have gotten worse and that police are more likely to use deadly force against a black person. It doesn't show why more people think that. I believe the BLM movement specifically has done very little to further that cause, and is actually is more likely to alienate people than to convince them.

[Wells]

300 people marching for a great cause is still silence relative to the fanfare and shitstorm associated with things like the Ferguson murders.

Yes, because everyone agrees crime is a problem and should be addressed. Where as there are no shortage of people who think everything is great with the Police in the US.

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That poll shows that more people agree that race relations have gotten worse and that police are more likely to use deadly force against a black person. It doesn't show why more people think that. I believe the BLM movement specifically has done very little to further that cause, and is actually is more likely to alienate people than to convince them.

Then show your evidence.

[buck008]

That poll shows that more people agree that race relations have gotten worse and that police are more likely to use deadly force against a black person. It doesn't show why more people think that. I believe the BLM movement specifically has done very little to further that cause, and is actually is more likely to alienate people than to convince them.

Welcome to Twitter activism, sir.

[anveena]

They're too busy protesting over that drug dealer the cops killed the other day in st louis to be worried about that girl.

[buck008]

Then show your evidence.

He talks to people, man. Not you city folk. Real Americans. he knows what's up.

[Nadiru]

Yes, because everyone agrees crime is a problem and should be addressed. Where as there are no shortage of people who think everything is great with the Police in the US.

There's also no shortage of people who think everything about the police in the US absolutely and categorically sucks.

[RickJamesLich]

You're dodging. You said "Black lives matter... unless they are of course, killed by other black people, then we get silence." Now that you got called on your same ignorance that you're always indulging in you're trying to claim you were just talking about Ferguson or something. Its sad.

Man you are just repeating what I say at this point. A march in DC that's 100% unrelated to what just happened in Ferguson lol.

[Saucexorzski]

it's a pity nothing will change with the death of this young American citizen. White folk will still be blamed for the problems in the black community and black people will still be blamed for not careing about the death. Anti gunners will beat their chests and the war on drugs will still rage on fueling the gangs and the violence that follows.

[RickJamesLich]

300 people marching for a great cause is still silence relative to the fanfare and shitstorm associated with things like the Ferguson murders.

The name of the group is "300 man march", in the article is says there were 40 marching lol. Still that's a noble thing, and it's good that there are some in the black community that are speaking out against violence in general, and not just in one particular scenario. Now if we could just get some celebrities pitching in on this, it may actually gain some traction.

[Wells]

Man you are just repeating what I say at this point. A march in DC that's 100% unrelated to what just happened in Ferguson lol.

And when you got called on your bullshit you magically retconned your statement to just be about Ferguson.

[GammaRex]

This wouldn't have happened if guns were banned.

[RickJamesLich]

And when you got called on your bullshit you magically retconned your statement to just be about Ferguson.

Wells, read the first post in the thread. It's about a 9 year old girl that was killed in Ferguson. There's obviously a lack of outrage with this story compared to the Michael Brown case, as well as the recent drug dealer that allegedly pointed a gun at cops before he was killed. You cited something going on in Washington DC that has nothing to do with this story. When I say the lack of outrage, I'm referring to the story. We could keep going around in circles or you can admit you lost the argument lol.

[Nachturnal]

A 9 year old girl got killed... and people in this thread are using this event to explain how racist society is towards white people, how it got too much coverage because she is black? Claiming that black people somehow don't care about what happened?

Doesn't seem like they do care. If the racial groups put as much outrage and focus as they did police brutality, imagine how much more they can get done. This is just going to be another incident waved off as just a part of life in the hood. Flowers and pictures for the corner Bodega. Something I'm all too familiar with.

[Only the Best]

Then show your evidence.

Unless there is a poll out there that asked people how the BLM movement in particular has affected their views, neither one of us is going to be able to show any evidence of what we believe.

[dextersmith]

Gang related most likely.

Likely so but I wonder what the reaction would be if a white cop shot the gang member. I also wonder if they'll blame cops for not being there to prevent this tragedy.

That poor girl.

[buck008]

Doesn't seem like they do care. If the racial groups put as much outrage and focus as they did police brutality, imagine how much more they can get done. This is just going to be another incident waved off as just a part of life in the hood. Flowers and pictures for the corner Bodega. Something I'm all too familiar with.

That's because dealing with situations like this, in the absence of a "bad guy", involves creating racist caricatures of whichever group that one dislikes and assigning blame to that fictional person. It's like one shared national strawman that serves no one and does nothing. But it's easier than dealing with the real problems, so that's what we do.

[Wells]

Unless there is a poll out there that asked people how the BLM movement in particular has affected their views, neither one of us is going to be able to show any evidence of what we believe.

Yeah, but you made a positive claim. Are you just acknowledging you have no basis for it?

[Gumboy]

No, you're making the same bullshit claims about black on black violence being ignored you make every time someone even mentions black people, like some kind of instinctual reaction.

so 40 people marching is now =thousands rioting over white on black violence?

[Wells]

so 40 people marching is now =thousands rioting over white on black violence?

This is the post being referred to.

The march in Baltimore is with regards to a different poster.

[PACOX]

Why would there be protests? Those are led against the government or figures of authority. Who are we protesting in this case? No, when things like this happen and there is no cartoon villain to paint with a sinister twirl of the mustache, you actually have to ask hard questions about gun violence and the culture of poverty. You have to think about why things happen. That's why it fades so quickly. No one wants to think about that. People want a good guy and a bad guy, and they don't particularly care who is who. They just want their world view to be reinforced.

Do you know or care that the biggest indicator of violent crime in America is poverty and not race? That's not a sexy debate to have because it requires honest thought and self criticism and doesn't let you scapegoat whichever group you don't like.

Because the people complaining about #BLM and the protest are out of touch. They just caught up on the name Black Lives Matter and not what their actual message or motives. BLM speaks out against institutionalized injustices. Its not that they don't care about all people, its not that they don't care about this little girl. Its about uplifting a particular group of people, not saying they matter more than others. Thats like saying doctors at a women's clinic doesn't think men's health is important.

This tragedy literally just happened. There is no particular suspect. Its not like there is a suspect and they haven't been taken in for questioning. People who protest in the name of BLM will probably mention and recognize the death of this girl, they certainly aren't going to ignore it. But what is there to really protest? They already speak out against violence within their own communities, they already speak out against black on black crime and senseless acts of violence. Now just because you only seem protest against law enforcement related injustices on TV doesn't mean they aren't have discussion about violence within their own communities. Its ignorant and shortsighted to think that they don't.

If you (certain people on the internet) really want to appear as a sensible person, then stop having these childish and ignorant reactions towards any sort black related news that comes your way. The eye rolling, sarcastic remarks, and finger pointing that people like post is exactly why movements like BLM exist.

An innocent little girl lost her life for God knows what reason and all you can say is "Har har, where are the protest now ( ͡º ͜ʖ ͡º)".