is it impossible to have a healthy discussion on immigration without pulling the racist-card?
I wonder how immigrants affect your daily life for you to form bigoted world view.
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No. European understanding of race and religion is pretty fucked up. That's why it's shocking for the rest of the world.
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It is quite possible unless racist remarks are made.
Where do you see this going?
40% of "immigrants" are not entitled to "immigrate" and are supposed to turn right around back home.
If you started to bomb each ship which tries to gross the mediterranean that would stop very quickly.
You could organize official transport so everyone can life in Europe.
I am sure if one of the immigrant fucks up and commits a crime the others will not suffer for it. /sarcasm
Maybe some uninhabited islands can become colonies for unintegrable war criminals who cannot return to their countries.
While those who can return are sent back.
And those who are good people and just want a home can come in.
Well this is off to a rocking start! OP consists of no opinions, only links to newspapers about relevant immigration-related news right now, none of which are opinionated in themselves, only informative, and people respond with "you racist!"
Tbh this is a Megathread we could use, instead of the 3-4 new threads every day.
My general opinion: I think we should help those we can while keeping it at numbers we can properly deal with. That means numbers we have the resources to follow up, educate, place responsibly, support and ability to absorb as a society. In Norway we've recently had a debate about the number of boat-refugees we could take in, and there is worry from the instances actually responsible to help them that the suggested numbers was more than they could properly deal with; that means they can't follow up on psychiatric, language tutoring, education, housing and job placement and the other necessary aspects of successful integration. To me, any number above what they can cope with is too high.
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Are you serious lol?
Do you have any idea how xenophobic, racist the rest of the world is compared to the western and northern European countries?
You must be really naive to think xenophobia does not exist in the rest of the world, you know, the far east, the middle east, sub-Saharan Africa, South America etc..
I love how the fact that limited resources and jobs exist makes people bigoted. It's a nice thought to take in every poor person from every corner of the world, if you are willing to live exactly like them and be poor like them, because that is the only end result of unregulated immigration.
If you don't believe me, throw a piece of bread in the middle of your lawn. Ooo, food. Let's get it mold and bugs. So much food more more more. Oops bread is gone, we're dead.
We are either all poor as shit, or some have it better than others. Sorry, but I'll take the latter.
100% Agreed.
And those couple of bad apples among them which is impossible not to have should be sent back instead of having them stay to be a danger to other people while costing 100.000's of euros is just not acceptable when we welcome them. What im saying is that there should be like a 5-10 year period where there is a ZERO tolerance and if you do enough crime to end in front of a judge its out ASAP. There are PLENTY of good immigrants to take their place.
An example of what i talk about would be "Levakovic" from Denmark google that name thats the kind of bad apples i talk about. And atleast in Denmark theres a big problem with refugees from our camps going out stealing from shops and getting caught 10+ times without even a fine.
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I love all the Euros sitting comfortably in their rooms complaining about how the world is going to shit because of refugees.
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Was just reading the other day how Macedonia has employed the army to stop the mass of refugees. That says something!
I think these people should simply be sent back. If they want change, they should fight to change their country or immigrate legally. Sure, they might try again, but how many times can they try when the ships are organized by mafia groups that keep taking their money? If they have so much money, they can use it to make the paperwork and immigrate legally. Sure, those who are politically discriminated or truly are in danger of death in their lands could come, the others can fuck off. Especially criminals of any kind, if you come here and do any crime, you do not have a place in Europe.
You've gotten way further than us Swedes at the very least, here you're labelled racist for even mentioning that there must be some kind of limit to how many people we can bring in, even though our immigration agency's cried out that they don't have enough resources to handle the ones we already have, whilst more immigrants arrive daily...