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    ^ True. It certainly doesn't reflect the real economy any more.

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    Well to be fair, the stock market is about as based in reality as a video game.
    Futures are pretty important and they are directly tied to something unlike shares in a company which can be a bit more vague.

    For everyone saying people should just hang on to their "stocks" When you buy a future you are betting on the future value of something real. If you hang on to them too long you can end up having to take delivery, there is going to be a surplus of various things thanks to slowdown in china, THAT is why they are being dumped as you can bet they will be less valuable going forward. You cannot just sit on them like shares in Apple or whatever.
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    Dow Futures are back up.China seems to be the only one going down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afrospinach View Post
    For everyone saying people should just hang on to their "stocks" When you buy a future you are betting on the future value of something real. If you hang on to them too long you can end up having to take delivery, there is going to be a surplus of various things thanks to slowdown in china, THAT is why they are being dumped as you can bet they will be less valuable going forward. You cannot just sit on them like shares in Apple or whatever.
    The article isn't about commodities futures. This is futures on the stock market, and mostly it was for the purpose of trading outside business hours. In that situation, you're perfectly happy taking delivery, since you're just getting shares of stock. And yes, you should sit on it in a crisis time like this.
    'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
    Or a yawing hole in a battered head
    And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
    And there they lay I damn me eyes
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    All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

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    welll, shanghai idex opened up with a 6,41% loss
    it seems that the chinese cant conceal the huge debt that they have
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    welll, shanghai idex opened up with a 6,41% loss
    it seems that the chinese cant conceal the huge debt that they have
    Everyone else is up so that's good.
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    welll, shanghai idex opened up with a 6,41% loss
    it seems that the chinese cant conceal the huge debt that they have
    If the Chinese let us buy Chinese stock, there's probably a lot of good bargains to be had right now.
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    Everyone else is up so that's good.
    my country is very dependent of china. we are a commodities exporter for the most part (so we're pretty much f*cked)
    Forgive my english, as i'm not a native speaker



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thepersona View Post
    my country is very dependent of china. we are a commodities exporter for the most part (so we're pretty much f*cked)
    yea probably
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    This is what happens when you start artificially propping up markets using gimmicks, sooner or later you need to come down to reality. Hello quantitative easing.

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    i immediately read this thread as drow futures tumbling 700 points.
    r.i.p. alleria. 1997-2017. blizzard ruined alleria forever. blizz assassinated alleria's character and appearance.
    i will never forgive you for this blizzard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    The article isn't about commodities futures. This is futures on the stock market, and mostly it was for the purpose of trading outside business hours. In that situation, you're perfectly happy taking delivery, since you're just getting shares of stock. And yes, you should sit on it in a crisis time like this.
    It still makes sense to me that people trading futures would want to dump them, they are probably speculators rather than investors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    If the Chinese let us buy Chinese stock, there's probably a lot of good bargains to be had right now.
    Not just yet there's not. This is going to take a while.
    While you live, shine / Have no grief at all / Life exists only for a short while / And time demands its toll.

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    Here's what's really going on. Listen and learn:

    http://www.democracynow.org/2015/8/2...hael_hudson_on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarim View Post
    Guys

    Stay calm, but let me quote myself from earlier in the day, before the US markets even opened:



    Oh and

    Just so you know

    The DOW is down nearly 5% today

    All those dip buyers are heavily in the red

    Beware
    I wouldn't say I told you so but

    I told you so

    Yesterday. Before the market even opened

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