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    Horde One of Europe's Biggest Mosques to Open in Moscow

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile...ow/534609.html

    One of the biggest mosques in Russia will finally open in Moscow on Wednesday after a decade of construction work, with President Vladimir Putin and foreign dignitaries attending the ceremony.
    The new place of worship — built on the site of the city's original mosque — will be able to accommodate more than 10,000 people, about 10 times more than its predecessor, Rushan Abbyasov, deputy chairman of Russia's Council of Muftis, told The Moscow Times on Tuesday.
    Moscow's new mosque will be on a par with two enormous mosques in Russia's North Caucasus region: the Heart of Chechnya in Grozny, and the Grand Mosque in Makhachkala, Dagestan.
    Along with Putin, Turkish President Recep Erdogan and Palestine's leader Mahmoud Abbas are expected to attend the ceremony, the RIA Novosti news agency reported Tuesday.
    Moscow's original mosque, built in 1904, was the only functioning Muslim place of worship during most of the Soviet era. Reconstruction work began in May 2005, but in 2011 the old building was completely demolished.
    Abbyasov said that construction had cost about $170 million. Ravil Gainutdin, chairman of the Council of Muftis, told the TASS news agency on Friday that it had been funded entirely by private donations from around the world, including from Abbas, who gave $25,000. The biggest donation was made by Dagestan-born billionaire Suleiman Kerimov, who gave $100 million to the project after barely surviving a car crash in France in 2007, the Interfax news agency reported at the time.
    Abbyasov said that with six floors covering a total of 19,000 square meters, the Moscow mosque will be one of the largest in Europe.
    But despite its size and the installation of video screens to broadcast prayers, given that the number of Muslims living in Moscow is estimated at around 2 million people, the expansion will not solve the lack of places of worship for Muslims in the Russian capital.
    There are only four mosques in the city of more than 10 million residents, and the three others can only host up to 2,000 people each, said Abbyasov, who put the number of practicing Muslims in the city — both Muscovites and migrants — at about 200,000 people.
    "The opening of the mosque will only slightly improve the situation during [religious] holidays," he said. "They pray in winter, in the cold and in the rain. Believe me, it is really uncomfortable when you have to kneel in a puddle of water."
    On every Muslim holiday, tens of thousands of Muslims flood the areas around Moscow's mosques, praying on roads and sidewalks and hindering access for pedestrians and motorists for hours.
    Wednesday's opening ceremony is taking place just two days before the major Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha, known in Russia as Kurban Bairam. In recent years, the festival has resulted in street closures and a heavy police presence amid protests from non-Muslim residents and Russian nationalists who complain about the city being overcrowded with Muslims.
    Muslim clerics are in negotiations with the city authorities to build another large mosque capable of hosting up to 20,000 people outside the Moscow Ring Road that encircles the city, and then proceed with building smaller mosques — for up to 2,000 attendees — in every Moscow district, said Abbyasov.
    Neither the Council of Muftis nor City Hall have disclosed the location for the next major mosque. Three years ago, the Moscow government officially dropped plans to build a large mosque in the city's northwest neighborhood of Mitino after thousands of local residents rallied on the streets in protest.
    According to a January poll by the Levada Center think tank, 51 percent of Muscovites are against the building of new mosques in the city. Only 4 percent support the idea. Numbers for Russia overall are more balanced: 27 percent of respondents said they were against new mosques, while 30 percent saw them as a positive development. The poll was conducted among 1,600 adults and had a margin of error of 3.4 percent.
    "In Russia's big cities, judgments of interethnic and inter-confessional issues are always more critical," Karina Pipiya, a sociologist at the Levada Center, told The Moscow Times.
    "Moscow is a large center of domestic and international migration, society is more closely concentrated here, and as a result Muscovites are more negative and embittered."
    The shadowy Daughter of Urthona stood before red Orc,
    When fourteen suns had faintly journey'd o'er his dark abode:
    His food she brought in iron baskets, his drink in cups of iron:
    Crown'd with a helmet and dark hair the nameless female stood;

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    Good for the Muslims! Surprised Putin is attending though.

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    enjoy your new cathedral of hate and intolerance


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    Let's hope they dont attract people like that:

    http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschla...rverdacht.html

    Other than that nice to see tolerant russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawhammer View Post
    enjoy your new cathedral of hate and intolerance

    This will get you banned, but cant help but laugh, which will get me banned too!
    OT: Eh, see no reason why not, the only worry is that its an annoying trend, for decades now europe has been becoming more and more secular, this resurgence in religious mentality is not a good thing in my view, but wont judge, if it makes people happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawhammer View Post
    enjoy your new cathedral of hate and intolerance

    This will probably get you banned.

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    OP : 4% support it. Ayyy lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furitrix View Post
    Very nice? It's good for people of every religion to have a place to go.
    Yeah, it's not like the whole Uni-verse isn't already Deus' home, right ?

    Those anthropocentrist buildings are fruits of the Devil.

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    Keep your friends close and your enemies closer eh?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    Its a trap!

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    Where better to open a mosque than in mosque-ow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiik View Post

    OP : 4% support it. Ayyy lmao.
    They tore down an old mosque to build a new mosque.

    So it really matters dick-all whether "the public supports it or not."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Breaking news: One of Europe's Biggest Mosques to Open in in One of Europe's Biggest Cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puri View Post
    Breaking news: One of Europe's Biggest Mosques to Open in in One of Europe's Biggest Cities.
    But-but-but... the brown people!
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Where better to open a mosque than in mosque-ow?

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    They tore down an old mosque to build a new mosque.

    So it really matters dick-all whether "the public supports it or not."
    please... stop.

    Also, i guess this is due to the zerging of roads for prayer, better give this people a place to kneel than have them in the middle of the damn streets clogging it all up

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    About 20% of Moscow's population is Muslim. (City of 12 or 17 million depending whether you count the metropolitan area or not).

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    Personally I think all "places of worship" should be renovated into houses for the homeless, you know, become something useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    Personally I think all "places of worship" should be renovated into houses for the homeless, you know, become something useful.
    Aren't you late for your shift at the local soup kitchen?
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furitrix View Post
    According to the EU immigration crisis thread this means Moscow is governed by Sharia Law and Caliphate Warlords now.

    Sorry.
    Putin is strong PUTIN IS BOSS. Putin no make that happen!
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    But-but-but... the brown people!
    Our Muslims aren't brown - not all of them at least.

    That's for example the Muslim girl I knew. Not very devout though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Furitrix View Post
    According to the EU immigration crisis thread this means Moscow is governed by Sharia Law and Caliphate Warlords now.

    Sorry.
    Silly, we've been ruled by Shari'a law for as much as this mosque stood - which is over a century. Putin is our Caliph and Navalny is our rebellious Grand Vizier!
    The shadowy Daughter of Urthona stood before red Orc,
    When fourteen suns had faintly journey'd o'er his dark abode:
    His food she brought in iron baskets, his drink in cups of iron:
    Crown'd with a helmet and dark hair the nameless female stood;

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheImperios View Post
    Our Muslims aren't brown - not all of them at least.

    That's for example the Muslim girl I knew. Not very devout though.



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    Silly, we've been ruled by Shari'a law for as much as this mosque stood - which is over a century. Putin is our Caliph and Navalny is our rebellious Grand Vizier!
    ....if i'm not mistaken.....she's wearing a backpack......

    /run

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheImperios View Post
    Our Muslims aren't brown - not all of them at least.

    That's for example the Muslim girl I knew. Not very devout though.



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    Silly, we've been ruled by Shari'a law for as much as this mosque stood - which is over a century. Putin is our Caliph and Navalny is our rebellious Grand Vizier!
    To the west most muslims come from the ME, in Russia u got muslims from the eastern european places dont you? Dont know if its slavic countries or
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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