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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB11Nd5T-Io


    Ben Carson, A guide on how to be smart and dumb as fuck at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeic View Post
    you could tell him you don't understand how science works or what evidence is.
    And how many philosophy of science courses have you taken? Because it's a pretty complex subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Rukh, you can talk for me all you like in a passive aggressive manor but it wont work. This is a clear case of Uncle Tom syndrome, you don't like the black man because hes a danger to your political ideology, so he is a baboon, to you. But you and your kind have set the social rules in the states. You are free to say hes a baboon but you are not free from being called out on your racism.
    He was called a baboon because we evolved from monkeys and he is a creationist. There is irony in calling people who don't believe in evolution apes. It's why you need to call him an Uncle Tom, to make that comment racist. You are projecting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    You what?
    I'm not the one making any claims, i'm only claiming no proof of creatonism exists.
    You said "if no proof exists for a certain belief, is perfectly acceptable if its as ridiculous as creationism." So I'm waiting for your proof for the alternate claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi256 View Post
    And how many philosophy of science courses have you taken? Because it's a pretty complex subject.
    How many theology courses have you taken? Because that's where the study of creationism resides... Not philosophy of science... Theology...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    He was called a baboon because we evolved from monkeys and he is a creationist. There is irony in calling people who don't believe in evolution apes. It's why you need to call him an Uncle Tom, to make that comment racist. You are projecting...
    This. But creationists just don't get it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi256 View Post
    You said "if no proof exists for a certain belief, is perfectly acceptable if its as ridiculous as creationism." So I'm waiting for your proof for the alternate claims.
    Before he does that, do you believe in creationism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunnel Snakes Rule View Post
    What's wrong with "I don't know"?
    "I don't know" is great. I'm honestly a big fan of the statement, as are many other smart guys throughout history. But it hardly justifies calling someone with an alternate belief an idiot baboon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Before he does that, do you believe in creationism?
    I am a YEC. An idiot baboon if you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabreil View Post
    This. But creationists just don't get it....
    They are not even creationist. They are republican...
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    They are not even creationist. They are republican..., one in the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Healy when the tea party objects to obamas Marxism its muh racism
    Is Hilary also going to be called a marxist once the elections get close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi256 View Post
    "I don't know" is great. I'm honestly a big fan of the statement, as are many other smart guys throughout history. But it hardly justifies calling someone with an alternate belief an idiot baboon.
    It does justify it, because the mere concept that you are making religion out of science is wrong. Google George Lamatre for how an intelligent person deals with creationism of faith and contradictory science.

    I am a YEC. An idiot baboon if you will.
    Does that inhibit you from believing a scientific view, while maintaining your faith?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi256 View Post
    "I don't know" is great. I'm honestly a big fan of the statement, as are many other smart guys throughout history. But it hardly justifies calling someone with an alternate belief an idiot baboon.

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    I am a YEC. An idiot baboon if you will.
    That explains everything, you remind me of some guy that always posted in the religious subforum of a forum I visit. Acteally, I think he is still posting in it.


    Was a funny guy.

  14. #94
    Bush's and Fiorina's campaigns are pretty much over, due to incompetence or being caught in lies.

    Carson is certainly a hard one to crack, he doesn't back down from anything he says. Liberal journalists are going to have one heck of a time trying to bring him down.

    As part of the coveted Independent voter base, I have not made up my mind on who I will vote for. I can tell you that it won't be Clinton, I don't trust that she can put the country's needs above her own self interests.

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    Interesting point came up in the debates. Carson is on the board of Costco, the big warehouse store chain. Costco has a pro-gay policy when it comes to work regulations. I think Carson is anti-gay marriage, he said something about he's not anti-gay but I really didn't understand what he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Does that inhibit you from believing a scientific view, while maintaining your faith?
    It does because he believes the earth is only a few thousand years old. So he ignores evidence that conflicts with what he believes, and thus can not be scientific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi256 View Post
    You said "if no proof exists for a certain belief, is perfectly acceptable if its as ridiculous as creationism." So I'm waiting for your proof for the alternate claims.
    I never claimed any of these where true either.
    Although we do have plenty of evidence for evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I never claimed any of these where true either.
    So what do you believe, and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi256 View Post
    So what do you believe, and why?
    I have no beliefs.
    I trust the scientists on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I have no beliefs.
    I trust the scientists on this.
    Which scientists?

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