Soul reaper haste buff

[shadowslayerdragon]

Sorry if its been answered before, but im just wondering if anyone knows how many runes the haste buff from soul reaper gives? Cant figure out if it is a dps gain or not to use it just for the buff on some fights. Obviously this would be outside of execute range, just for using on low hp adds such as gorefiend souls or xhul'horac imps.

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On average it almost halfs your rune regen speed. If all your runes are on CD, all of them will come off CD faster.
With ~7s rune recharge, the haste buff will regen your runes are around ~4s.

Usually it's not worth it if you're aiming only to get the haste buff, the rune spend on Soul Reaper could have been spend on something more usefull.

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For unholy, you can spend uh rune to get up to 3 death runes recharge faster for bloodboils.
For blood, more haste->more autoattacks->more multistrikes to feed BoS.

[shadowslayerdragon]

Guys those replies dont help me anything at all, i was asking how many runes the buff gives. Im bad with math so thought id take the question here.

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It is supposed to give that 1 rune back in average. 0,33 of each 3.

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It doesn't give any runes back, it just gives you a haste buff.
You'll have to formulate your question a bit better.

[shadowslayerdragon]

It doesn't give any runes back, it just gives you a haste buff.

Which is the same thing as giving runes back.



Alright thanks hemski, that was what i thought too so i will assume it to be true!

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You have 2 unholy, 2 frost, 2 blood runes (pairs) and ofc death runes (which works same way) but only ONE of each type recovers same time, for example

(small letter is the one not recovering, big letter is one recovering atm)
U u / F f / B b
u wait for big one to fully recover, before small one can start, so only 3 from 6 runes can recover same time.

Which means if ur rune regen is 8 seconds, Soul Reaper proc makes it 5,34 secs recover time for 3 Runes, EACH one U one F one B same time.
(dunno why not 6 seconds, but tested it now, equipped as much haste to have exactly 8 secs rune speed)

Also if u are using Runic Corruption, u have 45% chance per Deathcoil to increase rune regen by 100% for 3 seconds (so from 8 to 4 seconds)
which works same way, 1 U 1 F 1 B rune regen same time

2,67 seconds rune regen both Soul Reaper and Runic Corruption procs stacked.

Now calculate it urself and u will know how many runes u get per SL 5 secs debuff :P and yes u should use SL a lot, it s also our top 3 hardest hitting ability

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the rune spend on Soul Reaper could have been spend on something more usefull.

Sorry, but this is total bullsht! :O

What more usefull?? bloodboil doing way less dmg than SR?
Even on aoe "sacrificing" 1 BB for Soul Reaper- top 3 hardest hitting ability, haste buff to refresh runes faster for even more bloodboils

[Jhiz]

Sorry, but this is total bullsht! :O

What more usefull?? bloodboil doing way less dmg than SR?
Even on aoe "sacrificing" 1 BB for Soul Reaper- top 3 hardest hitting ability, haste buff to refresh runes faster for even more bloodboils

The gains you would make on this are so very limited, on paper it is a good gain but first of all you need an aoe target that is almost dead and will die ideally immediately after you SR it for the best gains. However this isnt going to happen especially in HFC when most aoe is Burst aoe and most sustained aoe is on High hp targets. Unless you are in a low damage group it is difficult to get more then 4 blood boils off during a burst aoe phase even with rune pooling, and expecting to get a haste buff that takes up to 5s to trigger then the likely hood of getting dps gain from it is very minor and would have been more gain to time your SR for execute damage instead of haste buff

In terms of a Blood boil dps increase you would stand to gain much more damage from using plague leech/blood tap to trigger UH runes into death runes that can be used as additional blood boils on demand, instead of trying to create a minor gimmick. Also no one is is mentioning Necrosis damage from blood boil and the amount of damage it does, even an Execute soul reaper is about the same damage as a single blood boil on 3+ targets.