Brietbart: Starbuck's Red Cups Are About Cleansing Christian Culture

[lonely zergling]

Well there is a war on christmas where I live. We have "Weihnachtsmärkte" (Christmas markets) and they want to change it to the PC term Winter market. Why change the name, its just a place where people get drunk and buy expensive stuff and get their purse stolen by east european/ illegal immigrant thief gangs every year.

[Nachturnal]

Reaching has never gone so far.

[Sky High]

must be a slow day at Breitbart.com

[Rukh]

Well there is a war on christmas where I live. We have "Weihnachtsmärkte" (Christmas markets) and they want to change it to the PC term Winter market. Why change the name, its just a place where people get drunk and buy expensive stuff and get their purse stolen by east european/ illegal immigrant thief gangs every year.

Seems like christians should support that sort of decoupling, unless they're acting like entitled asses and demanding everyone celebrate their holiday or its somehow an offense against them.

[BatteredRose]

breitbart.com, where intelligence goes to die.

(Well, intelligence also goes to conservapedia to die, but sometimes there's no vacancy there.)

[lonely zergling]

Seems like christians should support that sort of decoupling, unless they're acting like entitled asses and demanding everyone celebrate their holiday or its somehow an offense against them.

Nah it's just tradition, I wouldnt visit a ramadan festival either, so whats the problem ? I'm not even christian or anything but I think the name can stay because many people are christian here. I demand ramadan festivals to be renamed to "Nofood@dayfestival" and Aschura should be renamed to "Moaningday", and turkish bazars should be renamed to human bazars, see how stupid that is..

[zorkuus]

Reaching has never gone so far.

But he wasn't reading too much into it. He said so himself, don't you believe him?

[Revi]

I think the way he expresses it is silly, but I kinda see his point tbh. I grew up celebrating Christmas in Danmark and Norway, and I've been in all of the Scandinavian countries at Christmas, and as secular as we all are there's no one making a fuss about it being a Christian holiday.

It's quite obviously Christmas. It's not "generic holiday season", it's Christmas. Anyone can celebrate it, no one needs to believe in Jesus or be read bible verses, but the holiday as it's celebrated today does have Christian roots, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

My Muslim friends all celebrate Eid and we all call it Eid, and when it's Christmas they enjoy the public decorations and wish people a happy Christmas then go home and live their lives like normal. There's no harm, no proselytizing, no offense, just a holiday called Christmas where people do whatever cultural celebrations they like.

I don't really care if it evolves into being thought of as a generic holiday with no particular cultural practices with no ties to anything, but rebranding it as such to move away from christian cultural roots certainly is "cleansing christian culture" regardless of intent.

[BatteredRose]

Christmas doesn't even have anything to do with Christianity, it's just an amalgamation of pagan holidays, which I'm pretty sure their little book forbids participating in.

[Karrotlord]

Everyone knows Jesus didn't walk on water. He ice skated. Taking away the skates is an affront to god!

When exactly did lack of explicit accommodation become equal to active oppression.

[Rukh]

Everyone knows Jesus didn't walk on water. He ice skated. Taking away the skates is an affront to god!

When exactly did lack of explicit accommodation become equal to active oppression.

When you're used to being extremely entitled.

[Rixis]

I don't really care if it evolves into being thought of as a generic holiday with no particular cultural practices with no ties to anything, but rebranding it as such to move away from christian cultural roots certainly is "cleansing christian culture" regardless of intent.

It's been moving away from its roots pretty much since its inception.

[Rennadrel]

From the article...



Surely going East at Christmas would be a good thing, considering where Jesus came from and all that.

Now East is coming west and has been pissing on the "Christmas parade" so to speak for the last 15 years or so. It has gotten really bad recently. Though quite frankly, I know a number of immigrant Canadians who respect and even show solidarity towards our holidays by putting up their displays. My neighbour is from India and he puts up Halloween decorations and Christmas lights every year, as do many others in my area.

You know, it's funny though. In all of this anti-Christmas sentiment that corporations seem to have because we don't want to offend non Christians, my workplace is one of the few places where the word "Christmas" still exists in all of it's forms. We have Christmas parties, because it is our workplace annual gatherings. We have a Christmas lunch at our building plus we have a formal event, both of which are blatantly labeled as such. And through it all, I have not heard a single complaint from anyone of another faith or ethnicity. And I work with Muslims, Hindu/Sikh's and various other backgrounds. They respect our right to celebrate our holidays as much as we as a company respect their religious symbols and traditions and however they choose to celebrate them. The problem is that many corporations don't do that because the PC assholes running their PR departments are idiots who thinks that the whole concept of Christmas and the Christian faith are some how hated by immigrants.

[Kujako]

Perhaps we should go back to when Christians in the US territories would stone to death anyone they caught practicing the pagan ritual of christmas?

Or better yet get rid of this whole "presidency" thing and bring back the King of the Bean?

[Revi]

It's been moving away from its roots pretty much since its inception.

Certainly. Christmas now is entirely different to what it was.

[Kalis]

It's been moving away from its roots pretty much since its inception.

Which is good, as JC was something of a crappy party host - he only served bread and fish for his guests, and didn't even bring enough of them. As for his wine...

[Bakis]

Which is good, as JC was something of a crappy party host - he only served bread and fish for his guests, and didn't even bring enough of them. As for his wine...

He was way better the day after when he could lay his hand onto ones forehead and cure your hangover.

[madethisfor1post]

Certainly. Christmas now is entirely different to what it was.

You mean you don't sacrifice animals to the old gods anymore?

[Kalis]

Now East is coming west and has been pissing on the "Christmas parade" so to speak for the last 15 years or so. It has gotten really bad recently. Though quite frankly, I know a number of immigrant Canadians who respect and even show solidarity towards our holidays by putting up their displays. My neighbour is from India and he puts up Halloween decorations and Christmas lights every year, as do many others in my area.

You know, it's funny though. In all of this anti-Christmas sentiment that corporations seem to have because we don't want to offend non Christians, my workplace is one of the few places where the word "Christmas" still exists in all of it's forms. We have Christmas parties, because it is our workplace annual gatherings. We have a Christmas lunch at our building plus we have a formal event, both of which are blatantly labeled as such. And through it all, I have not heard a single complaint from anyone of another faith or ethnicity. And I work with Muslims, Hindu/Sikh's and various other backgrounds. They respect our right to celebrate our holidays as much as we as a company respect their religious symbols and traditions and however they choose to celebrate them. The problem is that many corporations don't do that because the PC assholes running their PR departments are idiots who thinks that the whole concept of Christmas and the Christian faith are some how hated by immigrants.

There is nothing Christian about corporations cashing in on Christmas. You can't serve both God and money and all that malarkey.

[Underverse]

Nothing to do with cleansing christian culture, but this move does seem like it's on a multicultural vector. Especially considering this:

“In the past, we have told stories with our holiday cups designs,” said Starbucks’ Vice President of Design & Content Jeffrey Fields. “This year we wanted to usher in the holidays with a purity of design that welcomes all of our stories.”

Blech. Stories don't need to be "all-inclusive" in order to have value for everyone.

Hilariously, while this red cup attempts to make a point of inclusion, it's concurrently showing us the endpoint of ultratolerance and cultural/moral relativism. We start with a remarkable phenomenon, and then carve bits away to address each individual's grievance until we have nothing left to decry.