Holy power removed for Prot, but not ret :(

[gratax]

Title says it all
Also one of the talents seems like Monk/warlock teleport, but with damage so a mix of heroic leap and teleport?

[alex wolf]

they were doing so good too but no holy power stays for the only spec it ACTUALLY DOESN'T PROVIDE ENGAGING GAMEPLAY FOR WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD

[Jokubas]

I don't know, I love Holy Power for Retribution. It doesn't really make sense for the others, since they have much more reactive gameplay and can't afford to bother with an independent combo system, but that's all a DPS spec has time for.

[deadmau]

they were doing so good too but no holy power stays for the only spec it ACTUALLY DOESN'T PROVIDE ENGAGING GAMEPLAY FOR WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD

Arbitrary decision after arbitrary decision.

Let's give some legendary lore weapons to some spec, but for others we'll make arbitrary new legendary weapons for the rest of the specs.

Did anyone fall for Blizzard's attempt at subtlety?

Retribution Paladins continue to use Holy Power, serving as a strong mechanic for building interesting gameplay.

[Deleted]

Title says it all
Also one of the talents seems like Monk/warlock teleport, but with damage so a mix of heroic leap and teleport?

It is actually taken from Tyrael hero in HotS it seems... and Tyrael represents ret paladin in HotS

But i dont mind holy power, as long as we dont just press abilities on cd to build it up then use TV, but rather it to be dynamic, with synergy between abilities... and it seems it is like that

[Vasti]

What's hand of hindrance? :O

I bet blade of justice uses that spell effect from the trailer where the paladin is fighting the deathknight and a sword pierces him from the ground.

[Geso]

So... holy power generators for ret have a 20% chance to generate additional HP... So instead of our finishers having RNG, their making out generators have RNG.

Ret pallies = Tyreal

Prot pallies = D3 Crusader

Holy pallies = Healer that needs to be within melee range of their target to be the most effective.

[alex wolf]

if I wanted combo points I'd play a fucking rogue or a monk

holy power is garbage, poorly designed garbage

it only worked moderately well in its first iteration with only CS generating it and having to keep up inq and that was still only to make the spec more punishing


like fuck this Holy power only servers to make the spec less fun to play which is hilarious

everything else is like lets bring the fun back but not ret fuck no gotta keep this mechanic that only exist to be not fun

Like they don't even have to change anything about what they showed us just remove the holy power and add cool downs even conviction you just change Blade/CS to have a chance to reduce the CD of TV by 4 seconds

like jesus christ if you don't wanna make pallys then hire someone who will

[derpkitteh]

as i read through holy and prot, i was getting excited, then i got to ret and kinda lost that excitement.

really really hate holy power, and i really REALLY fucking hate divine storm costing holy power.

[Vasti]

So... holy power generators for ret have a 20% chance to generate additional HP... So instead of our finishers having RNG, their making out generators have RNG.

Ret pallies = Tyreal

Prot pallies = D3 Crusader

Holy pallies = Healer that needs to be within melee range of their target to be the most effective.

I can see the elitist jerks Retribution Patch 8.0 Theorycrafting already stating to use TV and DS at 4 HoPo to not potentially waste getting that to proc on your fifth and be wasted as a lost sixth HoPo

So far I like the prot changes and the Retri teleport, but not sure this is the shakeup we need to get back to class fantasy.
What happened to iconic aura's?
Divine Intervention?
What's the deal with seals?
Why does Retri still have HoPo?

Guess we'll have to wait for Beta, hopefully soon

[Ralikon]

as i read through holy and prot, i was getting excited, then i got to ret and kinda lost that excitement.

really really hate holy power, and i really REALLY fucking hate divine storm costing holy power.

I feel you on the divine storm part. It just feels so, not right.

[Runewrath]

if I wanted combo points I'd play a fucking rogue or a monk

So then don't play ret?

[tommos]

Looks like ret is keeping hopo but they buffed the ability to generate more of it more quickly.

[Bjorsen]

Holy power is fine for ret, What is conspicuous by absence is no mention of Hammer of Wrath.

[Kithelle]

as i read through holy and prot, i was getting excited, then i got to ret and kinda lost that excitement.

really really hate holy power, and i really REALLY fucking hate divine storm costing holy power.

I just hope in some way, shape, or form we will keep Empowered Divine Storm...

[Bjorsen]

Not to mention this Blade of justice is just an exorcism we actually care about now. Not much was needed in the way of change for ret, and now I'm extremely curious for beta.

[alex wolf]

Looks like ret is keeping hopo but they buffed the ability to generate more of it more quickly.

they made it even more meaningless but didn't remove it, like really? stupid clunky mechanic that only takes away from game play

[Geso]

I'm scared for ret until i see how the class plays. If the abilities they mentioned are all there is then ret is in trouble and will be relying heavily on RNG yet again. HoW and Exorcism weren't mentioned and with judgement losing the ability to generate HP it just means that BoJ is Exorcisms and Judgement HP generation in 1 new ability. Which is an issue since HoW is the #1 HP generator for ret pallies atm.

[Kithelle]

I'm scared for ret until i see how the class plays. If the abilities they mentioned are all there is then ret is in trouble and will be relying heavily on RNG yet again. HoW and Exorcism weren't mentioned and with judgement losing the ability to generate HP it just means that BoJ is Exorcisms and Judgement HP generation in 1 new ability. Which is an issue since HoW is the #1 HP generator for ret pallies atm.

It's a basic preview and doesn't show everything, they mentioned in the Ret talent a new ability Ret has that wasn't show in their preview...so I think it's safe to say that isn't all Ret gets.

[Ethenil]

Where does all this Holy Power hate come from? I'm genuinely surprised!