Climate change and China...But you get all over the USA???

[Logwyn]

http://www.11alive.com/story/news/wo...post/75636066/

Man. That really bad smog...Like unlivable smog.

[Garnier Fructis]

I don't really get the title, but China's smog is not a result of climate change but a result of their totally shitty air pollution standards.

[Bakis]

Well look up investments done in renewable energy in China.

[A Chozo]

Well I can't write in Mandarin to complain about China enough >:|

[Bakis]

Well I can't write in Mandarin to complain about China enough >:|

That is when memes can come to the rescue (unless one lives in Russia)

[Masark]

Smog and climate change are somewhat tangential subjects.

[RaoBurning]

At least China doesn't deny it exists. But yes, better title would be "pollution and China." The elbow nudge at their contributions to and actions against climate change are noted, however.

[Puremallace]

Back in the day they used to call that "clouds" and "fog" before they could no longer hide it. 1,400 PM is batshit insane fucking high. That is basically locking yourself in a garage with the car running kind of deadly.

[Endus]

1> Smog is largely due to particulates, not greenhouse gases. Related issue, but not the same.
2> China's already on board with climate change adaptation and has started moving forward on a relatively aggressive policy shift in response to the issue.
3> The USA's still WAY ahead of china in terms of per-capita emissions; China only bypasses the USA in total emissions because they've got roughly 4 times the population.

[Bakis]

Was pretty sad to watch the last republican debate when it came to global warming.
Coal is apparently a good thing to some of them and only one had a view partly in line with the overwhelming amount of research on the subject.

[Bighud44]

I don't really get the title, but China's smog is not a result of climate change but a result of their totally shitty air pollution standards.

So your saying that pollution has nothing to do with climate change? I think your kinda proving the argument for people who don't believe in climate change by basically stating that what people who believe in it are saying is the biggest cause of it?

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Was pretty sad to watch the last republican debate when it came to global warming.
Coal is apparently a good thing to some of them and only one had a view partly in line with the overwhelming amount of research on the subject.

Do you have any proof at all the climate change occurs? And before you answer take into account that for every so called "study" you can post, 10 can be found refuting it....

[Bakis]

Scary thing about China is that more and more people can afford eating meat more often and not the traditional chicken.
Great business for Australia but shit for the Chinese and the globe.

[Garnier Fructis]

So your saying that pollution has nothing to do with climate change? I think your kinda proving the argument for people who don't believe in climate change by basically stating that what people who believe in it are saying is the biggest cause of it?

I said that their smog is not a result of climate change.

That's different from saying that they're unrelated.

[Kalis]

Do you have any proof at all the climate change occurs? And before you answer take into account that for every so called "study" you can post, 10 can be found refuting it....

Are you saying that studies about climate change are 10-to-1 against climate change happening? I'm not convinced that's true.

Unless you aren't talking about scientific studies and are referring to blog pieces.

[Fexus]

Do you have any proof at all the climate change occurs? And before you answer take into account that for every so called "study" you can post, 10 can be found refuting it....

That's really funny because . . .
no they fucking can't.

[Garnier Fructis]

To all the people in the last thread saying that everyone already knows climate change occurs and that the debate is on why it's happening:

Exhibit A: Bighud44
Exhibit B: http://www.utenergypoll.com/wp-conte...oll-Final2.pdf

~ 1/4th of the nation, 1/3rd of republicans, 1/10th of democrats still not on board with reality.

[Iphie]

Do you have any proof at all the climate change occurs? And before you answer take into account that for every so called "study" you can post, 10 can be found refuting it....

I don't know why I'm even bothering, but first back up your claim that for every study proving CC there's 10, credible studies, denying it. If your claim was true 97% of the relevant scientists would not agree on the subject namely: Climate change is occuring and we are a, if the not the main, cause of it.

As for the studies supporting CC, those have been linked many, many, many times over the years on these forums. Though I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter the evidence your mind is made up and CC does not exist.

[Kalis]

I don't know why I'm even bothering, but first back up your claim that for every study proving CC there's 10, credible studies, denying it.

In their defence they didn't say the studies refuting it were 'credible', just they exist.

[Theinquisition]

So your saying that pollution has nothing to do with climate change? I think your kinda proving the argument for people who don't believe in climate change by basically stating that what people who believe in it are saying is the biggest cause of it?

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Do you have any proof at all the climate change occurs? And before you answer take into account that for every so called "study" you can post, 10 can be found refuting it....

Lol uh oh, you just smacked the sacred cow of a lot of the mmoc community, this will be fun

[Independent voter]

There's a community movement in China on how to make homemade air-filters.