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    Barack Obama: US President Will Veto House Bill to Increase Refugee Screenings

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    Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama on Wednesday vowed to veto a GOP-drafted bill that would suspend the program allowing Syrian and Iraqi refugees into the U.S. until key national security agencies certify they don't pose a security risk.

    "The certification requirement at the core of H.R. 4038 is untenable and would provide no meaningful additional security for the American people, instead serving only to create significant delays and obstacles in the fulfillment of a vital program that satisfies both humanitarian and national security objectives," the White House said in a statement.

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    The statement continued: "Given the lives at stake and the critical importance to our partners in the Middle East and Europe of American leadership in addressing the Syrian refugee crisis, if the President were presented with H.R. 4038, he would veto the bill."

    The refugee issue has emerged as a key political issue in the wake of last week's terrorist attacks in Paris. More than half -- 31 -- of the nation's governors, mainly Republicans, oppose letting Syrian refugees into their states and most GOP presidential candidates have called for a pause in allowing them into the country.

    A Bloomberg Politics poll released Wednesday found that 53% of American adults don't want Syrian refugees resettled in the U.S., while 28% say the Obama administration should proceed with its plan to accept 10,000 refugees next year without religious screening, and 11% say only Christians from Syria should be allowed in.
    Maybe if there was more thorough screenings it would put peoples minds at east and make them more accepting of said refugees?

    /sings Tom Petty song....

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    And once again Democrats and Obama are on the wrong side of the majority
    I say the hell with Obama and the democrats let them be on the wrong side of the majority let these refugees come in with their sham so called thorough vetting
    and when we have the inevitable terrorist attack by any of these refugees it will be over for the democrat party with them putting PC above Americas safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    And once again Democrats and Obama are on the wrong side of the majority
    I say the hell with Obama and the democrats let them be on the wrong side of the majority let these refugees come in with their sham so called thorough vetting
    and when we have the inevitable terrorist attack by any of these refugees it will be over for the democrat party with them putting PC above Americas safety
    Way to show confidence in your own country. Why do you live here again?
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    Republicans are making a big deal out of the refugees cause they know it's a good political issue for them.

    Elections are coming up.

    Yada, yada.
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    The refugee system is governed by international treaty and thus is foreign policy, which is handled by the executive branch. The House doesn't get to make executive decisions.

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    The North Carolina governor held a news conference in which he stated that 39 refugees had been sent to NC without any documentation. Without knowing who these people are, where they come from, or even how they got here how are we supposed to help settle them? For all we know the paperwork is just tied up but without being vetted the safety of our citizens must be given higher priority. I do not feel it is an unreasonable request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Way to show confidence in your own country. Why do you live here again?
    I have confidence in my country who I have 0 confidence in is the current administration they have bold faced lied to many dam times to have any confidence in them taking care of my pet rock let alone my, my families, or countries safety
    they have blatantly demonstrated PC is above all else to them PC trumps all including Americas safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    If he is not with the majority then how come he is a president? TWICE1
    He didn't get a majority of Real Americans, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Way to show confidence in your own country. Why do you live here again?
    Literally every neocon in 2003: the statement

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    Maybe if there was more thorough screenings it would put peoples minds at east and make them more accepting of said refugees?

    /sings Tom Petty song....
    you were linked the screening process in the other thread it is quite thorough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaskra View Post
    Literally every neocon in 2003: the statement
    I mean I guess he should be worried about right wing extremists in this country, because they are the biggest threat, but the animosity and fear of Syrian refugees is unfounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    Politicians are making a big deal out of the refugees cause they know it's a good political issue for them.

    Elections are coming up.

    Yada, yada.
    i fixed that for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    I mean I guess he should be worried about right wing extremists in this country, because they are the biggest threat, but the animosity and fear of Syrian refugees is unfounded.
    I get the feelings liberals like you would pretty much kill right-wing conservatives if they could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    I get the feelings liberals like you would pretty much kill right-wing conservatives if they could.
    Oh I guess you are disputing the findings of US law enforcement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sephaphath View Post
    you were linked the screening process in the other thread it is quite thorough
    so the director of the FBI is lying bold faced lied to congress

    quote from the FBI director


    “We can only query against that which we have collected, and so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our database, we can query our database til the cows come home, but … there’ll be nothing show up, because we have no record on that person,”

    he is admitting there isn't thorough vetting because there is no records to vet them against it is all a sham there is no finger print records there is no mug shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    so the director of the FBI is lying bold faced lied to congress

    quote from the FBI director


    “We can only query against that which we have collected, and so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our database, we can query our database til the cows come home, but … there’ll be nothing show up, because we have no record on that person,”

    he is admitting there isn't thorough vetting because there is no records to vet them against it is all a sham there is no finger print records there is no mug shots
    And then our intelligence agencies just throw up there hands and stop right there. I mean there isn't anything else they can do if they don't have reliable records from a war torn country right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    so the director of the FBI is lying bold faced lied to congress

    quote from the FBI director


    “We can only query against that which we have collected, and so if someone has never made a ripple in the pond in Syria in a way that would get their identity or their interests reflected in our database, we can query our database til the cows come home, but … there’ll be nothing show up, because we have no record on that person,”

    he is admitting tht thorough vetting because there is no records to vet them against it is all a sham there is no finger print records there is no mug shots
    you are distorting what he said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Oh I guess you are disputing the findings of US law enforcement?
    you didn't even bother to dispute what he said which is sad. inb4 "it wasn't worth disputing cuz he's an idiot lololololol."

    you're literally no better than the people you seemingly despise so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redhell View Post
    you didn't even bother to dispute what he said which is sad. inb4 "it wasn't worth disputing cuz he's an idiot lololololol."

    you're literally no better than the people you seemingly despise so much.
    How am I supposed to dispute such a ludicrous sentence anyways? Did you see what he said?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redhell View Post
    you didn't even bother to dispute what he said which is sad. inb4 "it wasn't worth disputing cuz he's an idiot lololololol."

    you're literally no better than the people you seemingly despise so much.
    How am I supposed to dispute such a ludicrous sentence anyways? Did you see what he said?
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    As a lefty progressive liberal I agree we should increase safety precautions concerning refugees, and increasing screenings is a fine, if benign, way of doing so.

    The safety of current American citizens should always be of paramount importance.

    We lock our doors not because we are scared to death of those outside, but because we love unconditionally those inside.

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