The Windwalker and Elemental Artifact quests. SPOILERS FOR LEGION

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Unlike meany others in this thread apparently I really think that the Elemental shamans and Windwalkers should basically have switched artifacts. I really dont mind Li Li but I still think a "more in their face fighting" character would have been more appropriate. I dont mind ele shamans having this artifact story as it really fits them well, but I would just have liked the monks to have something more related to Xuen/martial arts fighting, while this Air elemental lord seems way more up the elemental shaman alley. But as long as the quest and weapons are cool I dont think it will bother me to much apart from actually up to the expansion launch.

[Krazzorx]

Idk why people are fixating on the Li Li part so much, Al'akir and the Skywall is a near perfect transition to get Monks out of the Pandaren lore hole. I love Pandaren but its time Monk = Panda is done with.

Should be noted that the ele artifact weapon has very little to do with Xuen, its Ra Den's lightning weapon, its just he currently holds it.

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Should be noted that the ele artifact weapon has very little to do with Xuen, its Ra Den's lightning weapon, its just he currently holds it.

It's super ceded in Pandarian and monk history. Ra-Den used that weapon to give life to the Mogu, whose tyrannical reign were the very reason why pandaren martial arts were developed to begin with. It's the answer to that repeated question of 'Why do we fight'? Pandaria rose up and had to fight because of the chain of events begun by this weapon.

I'd be fine with shamans getting it, if Windwalkers got something equally symbolic in return. Right now the comparison between the Fist of Ra-den and the Fists of Heaven is a little insulting in the context of which adds more to the Monk DPS spec fantasy.


... But like people said, I'll most likely learn to live with it too if it remains unchanged. I'd really like it not to stay that way, though, and we're still in the beta-phase and all.

[Tech Priest Bojangles]

LI LI

Fuck that. So much for an epic quest to get some artifacts. Nah we get to escort that piece of shit around.
It's early. Maybe they'll change it to something better.

[rahvin2j3]

Hmm... I am not sure if I care about Li Li. What I love right now is the Fist artifact skin that is shown in wowhead.

It's a real fist. :-)



(been lurking for quite some time)

[Methosmv]

I'd prefer a 2her on artifacts so it could show some detail, a fist weapon will be small and unable to show any nice cool stuff like all the other staffs/polearms etc.. Hopefully if it's a fist weapon they'll make it so it can be transmogged into a nice sword and not look like some hulk hands or toy Wolverine hands as most fist weapons do. ( Plus monks in real lore used staffs )

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Yes, just checked as I saw someone talking about the look , on wowhead they are just a wolverine claw ... sad sad.... we have the worst looking artifact weapon in the game.. /Prays they change it.... At least my Frost DK will have an awesome one.

[Runeheal]

It's super ceded in Pandarian and monk history. Ra-Den used that weapon to give life to the Mogu, whose tyrannical reign were the very reason why pandaren martial arts were developed to begin with. It's the answer to that repeated question of 'Why do we fight'? Pandaria rose up and had to fight because of the chain of events begun by this weapon.

I'd be fine with shamans getting it, if Windwalkers got something equally symbolic in return. Right now the comparison between the Fist of Ra-den and the Fists of Heaven is a little insulting in the context of which adds more to the Monk DPS spec fantasy.


... But like people said, I'll most likely learn to live with it too if it remains unchanged. I'd really like it not to stay that way, though, and we're still in the beta-phase and all.

Windwalkers aren't lightning, elemental shamans are. Only pandaren windwalkers have a connection to lightning as its what our celestial (Xuen) does damage with. Aside from that lightning doesn't have much to do with windwalker monk.

I think being a master of windwalking and actually going up into one of the elemental planes and walking on clouds and fighting the embodiment of wind fits much better.

[Florena]

The seem backwards to me. Shouldn't the windwalkers be the one earning the favor of Xuen and doing Pandaria stuff while the shaman is going to the elemental plane?

[Therris]

Idk why people are fixating on the Li Li part so much, Al'akir and the Skywall is a near perfect transition to get Monks out of the Pandaren lore hole. I love Pandaren but its time Monk = Panda is done with.

Should be noted that the ele artifact weapon has very little to do with Xuen, its Ra Den's lightning weapon, its just he currently holds it.

This is very true, I don't want monk tied down to pandaren any longer, they need to expand. No other class is tied so deeply to a race, and monk definitely shouldn't be considering a monk is various different types of things following various different types of teachings and lessons.

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The seem backwards to me. Shouldn't the windwalkers be the one earning the favor of Xuen and doing Pandaria stuff while the shaman is going to the elemental plane?

I'm glad its not that way to honest, I'm actually surprised people are being forced back to Pandaria

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Yes, just checked as I saw someone talking about the look , on wowhead they are just a wolverine claw ... sad sad.... we have the worst looking artifact weapon in the game.. /Prays they change it.... At least my Frost DK will have an awesome one.

Sorry skulls and blood aren't the monks thing

I love our fist weapons, the "Wolverine Claws" look amazing, I love the red and black one!

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I'm glad its not that way to honest, I'm actually surprised people are being forced back to Pandaria

Probably because it's the continent with the highest quality of world-building along with the some of the best work their art-team has ever done.

Maybe MoP was the best expansion out of the three after Wrath came out.

I 'unno.

Windwalkers aren't lightning, elemental shamans are. Only pandaren windwalkers have a connection to lightning as its what our celestial (Xuen) does damage with. Aside from that lightning doesn't have much to do with windwalker monk.

You say this, but

I think being a master of windwalking and actually going up into one of the elemental planes and walking on clouds and fighting the embodiment of wind fits much better.

The Windwalking spec barely has anything to do with Wind either, beyond the arbitrarily chosen spec name. The only connection Windwalkers display to Wind is the Rushing Jade Wind ability.

[Shelly]

The Windwalking spec barely has anything to do with Wind either, beyond the arbitrarily chosen spec name. The only connection Windwalkers display to Wind is the Rushing Jade Wind ability.

The Windwalker style is to represent freedom and improvision. Our strikes are fast and almost unseen, graceful but overwhelming.

The fist weapon is literally empowered by the very element which embodies our fighting style. I think it's a great fit.

[Myta]

People apparently hate Li Li despite there only being one quest chain she was a part of in all of MoP where you merely take her to various places in Valley of the Four Winds, not even an escort! and just solve the problems of the Pandas there. Her biggest foible is being cheery in a game where people are used to characterization black holes like Garrosh.

[Deleted]

Here's the full Windwalker artifact wep, OP just put Li Li cause they are overly upset about it. Going into the elemental plane of air, riding a storm dragon and fighting a tyrant sounds cool to me.




Doesn't even weave mists though..she just chugs brew at people.

In the short stories she uses the Sturdy Ox stance

http://beta.wowhead.com/champion=588#championnpcs

She's been a mistweaver for a while now, I remember one of the devs saying it

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Lili and Chen Stormstout are the greatest characters to come out of mists of pandaria. Im fucking pumped.

She is a monk and a damn good one at that. For her age she is beating foes way stronger than she is.

Super hyped, thanks for that info. Go shamans, have fun with the white tiger, thats neat.
I'm going to go on an adventure with Lili. Fits perfectly for monks.

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Lili and Chen Stormstout are the greatest characters to come out of mists of pandaria. Im fucking pumped.

She is a monk and a damn good one at that. For her age she is beating foes way stronger than she is.

Super hyped, thanks for that info. Go shamans, have fun with the white tiger, thats neat.
I'm going to go on an adventure with Lili. Fits perfectly for monks.

IDK, Shao Hao is kind of a baller

[Deleted]

Many characters are but seriously, has anyone here read the shortstories with Lili? She is great and absolutely a fit for this adventure.

At first I wasn't sure what to think about the WW Artifact coming from Uldum. But hell. Its an adventure, why not take one of the most hilarious and greatest monk characters with us?

Lili and Chen are some of the best known monks in the World of Warcraft lore, theres no way around it. I am infact pretty happy about all 3 monk artifacts. Yes they may not be epic as the other ones on the grand scale of things but there is more heart in our artifacts than the others.

[Lucrece]

Good thing to get monks out of Pandaria. If any place fits monks other than Pandaria, Uldum is really it.

I would have preferred Chen than LiLi, but whatever.

I have more an issue with our artifact weapon looking uglier than sin. You look at Fist of Ra-den and it has so much flourish, glow, and detail. Wolf motifs.

Our Fists of Heaven just look puny.

[Ryuutora]

Good thing to get monks out of Pandaria. If any place fits monks other than Pandaria, Uldum is really it.

I would have preferred Chen than LiLi, but whatever.

I have more an issue with our artifact weapon looking uglier than sin. You look at Fist of Ra-den and it has so much flourish, glow, and detail. Wolf motifs.

Our Fists of Heaven just look puny.

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I can easily get over the Li Li part since it's just for the opener,plus she isn't as annoying as Aggra, but the fists look dull and simple up until the stone ones with very little going on. Hell I've seen more wind on an alternate doomhammer than ours. Are they sure Al akir didn't sneeze into the weapon instead?

[Runeheal]

The Windwalking spec barely has anything to do with Wind either, beyond the arbitrarily chosen spec name. The only connection Windwalkers display to Wind is the Rushing Jade Wind ability.

Windflurry? Flying Serpent Kick? Moving and attacking as fast as the wind? Hurricane Strike?

[UnluckyAmateur]

Time for monks to move from pandas and chi.

uhhh... what?