Im a bit concern..
I mean, I feel like I put alot more effort on my Boomkin than my Mage. I wonder how good Boomkins will be compared to them
So this is the first time I'm actually going to try hard at min-maxing. Since mastery is weak, would the optimal setup be to have literally no mastery on your gear, or is there a sweet spot one should aim for?
I find it hard to believe that vers outweighs mastery, doesn't mastery scale way better than vers? Especially with the hotfix
nope.
Pretty much. It gains some value with specific talents/legendaries where it can compete with crit and/or vers, but rest of the time you want 0 unless it is a big ilvl upgrade or has a socket. Trinkets are an exception, as it depends a lot on the other effect.
in terms of just stat coversion yes, it takes less stats to get 1% mastery than it does to get 1% vers.
But vers works on ALL your sources of damage, while mastery does not. That is why vers is being seen as better (works on Fury of Elune, your moon moon spells, all your unempowered nukes and dot ticks, Power of Goldrin (i think), possibly even on treants (not sure), trinket damage procs if any, etc - you get the idea
Has anyone really got to the higher mythic + dungeons with a halfway good item level as boomkin? I know we will not be the best due to slow rampup on AOE but how far down are we?
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I think purely technically they even inherit Mastery, it just doesn't do anything for them.
For that matter, Stamina and armor. They're fairly tanky considering they only last 10s and there's 3 of them. They tend to survive their full duration unless you sick them on something like the invasion Fel Reavers(what's up with their melee damage anyway? 300k? You kidding me?)
i keep hearing about the "slow ramp up time for aoe" but from the beta videos I've seen it seems fairly quick to gain astral power for star fall. I'm kinda confused
Assuming BoE and SOTF
starting at 0 AP
Well lets say you got 4 targets: moonfire x4 +sunfire+ SW x4 + starfall +sunfire refresh+refresh moonfires.
Thats 10 GCD's before your dots are empowered and you star doing "real" aoe damage. Thats an awfully long wait compared to other aoe.
The alternative is to skip dots, wrath x 5 +sunfire+starfall+moonfire spam. Still takes 7 GCDs, and you are getting less empowered dot ticks for all that AP you spent.
Using LS is more splash damage but its even slower (since it has a lower AP/Sec value).
Its great against long lived adds...but against stuff that isn't - 7-10 gcd's and they are likely dead already
Last edited by Keiyra; 2016-08-25 at 06:00 PM.
Just some question for Starfall and Aoe.
So lets say there's like 25 things stacked, and we get to use one Sunfire so everyone is dotted. What's best, to dot everyone up with Moonfire aswell or just spam Lunar Strike and dump Starfall?