QM Matchmaking is still shit and it's not okay

[Mormolyce]

For a while I was regularly uploading screenshots of games with fuck awful comps that resulted in miserable games, but I stopped for a while until just now when I had a game that made me feel completely powerless to do anything:



(Our only assassin is Gall and this is on battlefield of eternity vs. two pushers who both went lane build because LOL what were we going to do about it?)

While taking this shot I realised that this is number 14. I've had comps so shitty I thought they deserved to be posted in this forum FOURTEEN TIMES.

I know they made changes to the matchmaking (is that live?) but even then there was no real mention of anything specifically looking at comp. It's not good enough in this game for matchmaking to be comp-agnostic. At the very least it should be matching like numbers of warriors and supports. At the moment the only real criteria is that it TRIES to match supports. In an ideal world it'd balance specialists too...

QM is the public face of the game and what new players encounter when they start playing. If 25% plus of all games feel horribly one-sided due to comp then that is a big problem. It feels shitty and makes you want to stop playing.

It's one thing to get teams that are way better than you, quite another to feel like the matchmaker is holding you down while the enemy team kicks you.

[Nerraw]

The changes aren't live yet, they weren't ready for the Cho'gall patch sadly. I just hope they're ready for the Lunara update.

[ttak82]

This is likely an outlier case. How many games have you played in total?

[Imnick]

Their new Blizzcon system isn't implemented yet.

[Mormolyce]

Their new Blizzcon system isn't implemented yet.

I really hope it does improve things, I'm just sceptical because they emphasised matchmaking skill levels and downplayed anything to do with comp at Blizzcon.

This is likely an outlier case. How many games have you played in total?

Is there a way to track that?

I've played since beta pretty regularly, and I see... well a lot more awful comps than I feel should happen. Obviously there will always be some comp issues, but it could be a lot better IMO.

[ttak82]

I really hope it does improve things, I'm just sceptical because they emphasised matchmaking skill levels and downplayed anything to do with comp at Blizzcon.



Is there a way to track that?

I've played since beta pretty regularly, and I see... well a lot more awful comps than I feel should happen. Obviously there will always be some comp issues, but it could be a lot better IMO.

In your profile, there is breakdown of games played by role on the bottom right corner of the main summary screen

If you have more than one account, it can count too, since the matchmaker is the same.

eg. I am around 400 games. Mostly as assassins, although warrior representation is catching up. Specialists are least played in my breakdown.

Ok this also includes VS AI/HL/TL games.so its only useful if you exclusively play QMs on that account

Another way to track it is to go into your QM stats and add all the map record totals up.

Some maps are out of the rotation so they may not appear but they will appear next week. But least you will have an idea of minimum QMs played.

[Deleted]

I tend to queue as auto pick for QM, it has had a really positive impact on my gaming experience, since that team will not without support or warrior.
On the other hand, some of the most intense games i had were without support and warrior

[Mormolyce]

In your profile, there is breakdown of games played by role on the bottom right corner of the main summary screen

If you have more than one account, it can count too, since the matchmaker is the same.

eg. I am around 400 games. Mostly as assassins, although warrior representation is catching up. Specialists are least played in my breakdown.

Ok this also includes VS AI/HL/TL games.so its only useful if you exclusively play QMs on that account

Another way to track it is to go into your QM stats and add all the map record totals up.

Some maps are out of the rotation so they may not appear but they will appear next week. But least you will have an idea of minimum QMs played.

Oh I thought that was just this season. It's 1226 total, 400 specialist and rest fairly even.

[ttak82]

I tend to queue as auto pick for QM, it has had a really positive impact on my gaming experience, since that team will not without support or warrior.
On the other hand, some of the most intense games i had were without support and warrior

I agree on the second part; Assassin/spec heavy games make for some great brawls

[Mormolyce]

I tend to queue as auto pick for QM, it has had a really positive impact on my gaming experience, since that team will not without support or warrior.
On the other hand, some of the most intense games i had were without support and warrior

I'm okay with having or not having support and warriors, provided the enemy team is the same!

[Ealyssa]

Cho'Gall is also cancer in QM more often than not. Takes 2 slots for one hero, usually badly played.

Can't wait for the Cho'Gall hype to die.

[Imnick]

I don't know if their system at Blizzcon will be better or not, I am just saying there's not much point saying that matchmaking is shit when they've said it themselves on stage and we know for a fact that they are working on fixing it, but the fix isn't done yet.
It's not going to make it done any faster.

[Mormolyce]

Cho'Gall is also cancer in QM more often than not. Takes 2 slots for one hero, usually badly played.

Can't wait for the Cho'Gall hype to die.

Then me and my buddy can queue as Chog and get an enemy team with no Chog...

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I don't know if their system at Blizzcon will be better or not, I am just saying there's not much point saying that matchmaking is shit when they've said it themselves on stage and we know for a fact that they are working on fixing it, but the fix isn't done yet.
It's not going to make it done any faster.

I'm saying I don't think their fix will fix it.

Unless there's more to it than they said at Blizzcon.

[Imnick]

What's the point in making that prediction before it's released?
You can't know that until it's in, and they're also going to ignore any feedback on a system you can only make guesses about until it's released.

[Nikkaszal]

Cho'Gall is also cancer in QM more often than not. Takes 2 slots for one hero, usually badly played.

Can't wait for the Cho'Gall hype to die.

Not so much right now, there's less randoms doing it just to get CG and now it's mostly a co-ordinated pair of friends

I mean yeah they could just be rubbish players as well but in that case it wouldn't matter who they picked

[Well]

Yeah, QM matchmaking is complete and utter trash, and I am not even exaggerating.

Picking Cho'Gall with your friend? Have 2 more warriors and no support.

Picking specialist and assassin? Have 1 more specialist and 2 supports, with the enemy having 1 spec, 1 assassin, 1 support and Muradin + Johanna.

Picking support & warrior? Have 2nd support, 2 warriors & 1 specialist.

It really needs to stop. It's absolute trash and destroys games from the get go.

[Mormolyce]

What's the point in making that prediction before it's released?
You can't know that until it's in, and they're also going to ignore any feedback on a system you can only make guesses about until it's released.

I'm going off the stated changes in Blizzcon, which didn't say anything about tighter comp restrictions.

[Deleted]

Wow that is one bad composition LOL. OP, I've literally never seen worse and I have over 2.5k games played

[Well]

Wow that is one bad composition LOL. OP, I've literally never seen worse and I have over 2.5k games played

You would faint in your chair if I took a screenshot every time (and that is almost every game) I stumbled on bad team comps.

[Frickinaj]

I just made an account and I don't believe I can post pictures yet, but I had a match last night with an abysmal QM comp too
Zeratul
Nova
Murky
Tassadar
Abathur
V
Muradin
Arthas
Butcher
Tychus
Lili

I honestly couldn't believe it.