Why are bigots so incapable of differentiating between muslims and non-muslims?

[Revi]

Now that is the correct use of "bigot".

Yes, unfortunately the world is full of idiots that will hate any kinds of people for various reasons. You say it's the first time in your life, so luckily it's not actually a problem that you have to deal with in your life. Once every 18 years, you can ignore that.

You're not going to reason with people like that. Ignore it and live your life.

[Spectral]

I've gone 18 years without experiencing something like this.

Well, best to make a thread about it and don a persecution complex immediately. You wouldn't want to shrug it off as an asshole being an asshole and go on with your day. I'm glad that as a white guy, I never have to deal with anyone being an asshole to me.

[Deleted]

What is there to differentiate between a Muslim and a non-Muslim when it comes to bigotry? Is it justified if you were a Muslim?

Opposing ideological belief isn't bigotry in any manner.

[Kuntantee]

Opposing ideological belief isn't bigotry in any manner.

Opposing is not, disliking them just because they believe is.

I find it quite hilarious that OP expects not to be subjected to any sort of bigotry because he's not Muslim.

[GennGreymane]

yes i do genngreymane!

also when do i get to play you as a hero in HotS?

I have no idea

and heres the popcorn *gives popcorn*

[Deleted]

Opposing is not, disliking them just because they believe is.

No, it isn't. By your definition one shouldn't dislike nazis, only nazism.

[Jotaux]

Opposing ideological belief isn't bigotry in any manner.

If the only difference in the OP's story was that he was a muslim it would be a completely different situation?

Honestly, I say the same thing when the crazies were saying Obama is a muslim, why would it even matter?

[Kuntantee]

No, it isn't. By your definition one shouldn't dislike nazis, only nazism.

Are you comparing Islam (or any religion) with Nazism? Girl, go read some philosophy of religion and enlighten yourself.

[Deleted]

Are you comparing Islam with Nazism? Girl, go read some philosophy of religion and enlighten yourself.

No, I'm comparing ideology to ideology and the followers of that ideology to followers of another ideology. I just choose another ideology that's disliked as an example. Same would apply to communists, or for that matter, any other ideology.

[Omgodzilla]

Well, best to make a thread about it and don a persecution complex immediately. You wouldn't want to shrug it off as an asshole being an asshole and go on with your day. I'm glad that as a white guy, I never have to deal with anyone being an asshole to me.

Tell that to the Sikh people who've been attacked and in some cases, murdered because some "assholes" were too stupid to differentiate them from muslims.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1751841.html

[Canpinter]

Are you comparing Islam with Nazism? Girl, go read some philosophy of religion and enlighten yourself.

the point is that disliking someone for holding a view is reasonable if the view is disgusting enough.

[Spectral]

Tell that to the Sikh people who've been attacked and in some cases, murdered because some "assholes" were too stupid to differentiate them from muslims.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1751841.html

I'm pretty sure the problem there is the murdering, not the inability to tell people apart. I really have no idea what your point is - what, would it be all fine and dandy to gun down innocent people if only he'd correctly identified them first?

[Kuntantee]

No, I'm comparing ideology to ideology and the followers of that ideology to followers of another ideology. I just choose another ideology that's disliked as an example. Same would apply to communists, or for that matter, any other ideology.

You can not compare apples with oranges. Religion is naturally converged phenomenon. Nazism is an ideology constructed due to material as well as social needs of the era.

[Templar 331]

You should have screamed "ALLAHU AKBAR!!" as loud as you could just to piss him off more. But unfortunately the quit bigots would tackle you then. :/

I imagine it's quite unsettling to meet someone as bigoted as that in Canada but sadly that's the norm down here. I go to work everyday with them, see them in Walmart, use to hear them on the radio(haven't listened to the radio since I can now play my IPod through it), etc. These people have their head so far up their asses they don't even know what sunlight is. To try and explain cultural diversity to them is about like teaching them evolution. >.>

[Deleted]

You can not compare apples with oranges. Religion is naturally converged phenomenon. Nazism is an ideology constructed due to material as well as social needs of the era.

Religion is constructed by humans as well. Shouldn't be immune to dislike of it's followers or the ideology if you don't like the ideology because it stands in opposition to your values.

[urasim]

You can not compare apples with oranges. Religion is naturally converged phenomenon. Nazism is an ideology constructed due to material as well as social needs of the era.

ideology
[ahy-dee-ol-uh-jee, id-ee-]
noun, plural ideologies.
1.
the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual, social movement, institution, class, or large group.

Religions are ideologies.

[Kuntantee]

Religion is constructed by humans as well. Shouldn't be immune to dislike of it's followers or the ideology if you don't like the ideology because it stands in opposition to your values.

No, it's not constructed. It is what people converged after thinking quite for a while. People needed religion, and someone supplied it. The need is not human construct. For this reason, it's much more deeper, complex and much more gray than any sort of political movement. Many religions involve reward/punishment system. This alone is enough for proving a faulty comparison.

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ideology
[ahy-dee-ol-uh-jee, id-ee-]
noun, plural ideologies.
1.
the body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual, social movement, institution, class, or large group.

Religions are ideologies.

Reduction is not an argument. It's a method.

[Deleted]

No, it's not constructed.

Yes, it is. Man-made.

[urasim]

No, it's not constructed. It is what people converged after thinking quite for a while. People needed religion, and someone supplied it. The need is not human construct. For this reason, it's much more deeper, complex and much more gray than any sort of political movement. Many religions involve reward/punishment system. This alone is enough for proving a faulty comparison.

Religion isn't what people needed. You need to study some evolutionary psychology. It's why we have cliques that aren't religious. Study some human behavior and you'll see that it's the appeal to be part of a group and not the appeal to worship a god.

[Kuntantee]

Religion isn't what people needed. You need to study some evolutionary psychology. It's why we have cliques that aren't religious. Study some human behavior and you'll see that it's the appeal to be part of a group and not the appeal to worship a god.

You can not explain the need for believing the existence of a "higher" being with the need of being part of a group. Throwing "study" quite a lot is not going to help you when the field is a half-scientific. Let me remind you that, psychology is a field good at observing human behavior patterns but is not that scientific when it comes to explaining why.