Clinton explains why she won't say 'radical Islam'

[Torgent]

Oh boy.... Radical Muslims, radical right wings, radical liberals, radical vegans, radical....

Today, everyone is a radical.

Well back in the 90s, radical was another name for cool. So why are we calling terrorists cool muslims?

[Fang7986]

Does she have any problem saying "White Supremacist"

Is she not concerned that will offend the vast majority of whites that aren't Supremacist

silly poster don't you know whites are privileged and therefore can't be offended by anything

[alexw]

And Hillary just lost any chance she had at winning the White house. The only ones that will go along with her are the few radical liberals who think like she does.

If you repeat the word Benghazi three times while clicking your heels together you will be transported to the magical place known as Foxnewsland where all your dreams will come true. You will need to be wearing a pair of NRA A rated evangelical blessed ruby slippers for this to work.

[zorkuus]

Funny, Americans were in the same shoes regarding the treatment of women a mere 40 years ago, and a mere 60 years ago, we were lynching black people without a second thought.

It doesn't matter if people support violence. Violence is a purely political, and socioeconomic motivation, not a religious one. Their hatred towards Israel is due to their belief that their people have been displaced unfairly.

The main reason for the KKK, even though they claimed to be a radical religious group, was because they felt they were superior as white people over black people. Everything else is a sham.

You just lost any argument you had by claiming no religion ever can/or have preach violence.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Does she have any problem saying "White Supremacist"

Is she not concerned that will offend the vast majority of whites that aren't Supremacist

There's a reason that word "supremacist" is on there...

[Fang7986]

Well back in the 90s, radical was another name for cool. So why are we calling terrorists cool muslims?

well that explains why everyone wants to join em no matter what your race/religion/belief everyone wants to sit at the cool table.

[Revi]

Those who don't murder bajillions of people for lolz, or travel from Britain to join ISIS at the age of 16 cuz they are mad at their parents, etc.

Moderate and extremely selective Muslims are the only ones who speak for Islam? How on earth does that make any sense?

[Dragoncurry]

What if murdering "innocents" and all that crap was a core tenant of a religion? Peace would be the perversion in that case.

You would be correct if your point was true. This is not true, however.

I assume the major point of contention that you have is that you believe that murdering innocents (or as you will counter, "nonbelievers") is a core tenet of Islam. If I disagree with you, you intend to link me something against that from a google search that suggests that Muslims should seek out infidels and kill them where they may be, I presume?

I've read all of these documents ad nasuem, and it's not a core tenet. There's not much more to say about this issue.

[Dystemper]

Funny, Americans were in the same shoes regarding the treatment of women a mere 40 years ago, and a mere 60 years ago, we were lynching black people without a second thought.

It doesn't matter if people support violence. Violence is a purely political, and socioeconomic motivation, not a religious one. Their hatred towards Israel is due to their belief that their people have been displaced unfairly.

The main reason for the KKK, even though they claimed to be a radical religious group, was because they felt they were superior as white people over black people. Everything else is a sham.

I have been around 50 years. At no point in that time did Americans treat women as chattle, and allow women to be killed in honor killings for being seen with a man that was not a relative or showing too much skin. And lynchings were not common nor allowed. Sorry, you Fail

[Nynax]

I understand her and others sentiment in taking this approach towards rhetoric...

But at the same time I feel like you can't deny that the only thing that really unites all these terror attacks across the globe is in fact Islam, isn't it? I mean you have people of VASTLY different economic and geographic backgrounds, some people with no direct connect or reason to care about the middle east, all signing up for and being converted to terrorism. And it strikes me that the only thing they have in common is an extreme religious view.

[Dragoncurry]

Moderate and extremely selective Muslims are the only ones who speak for Islam? How on earth does that make any sense?

Let me assure you Muslims who don't murder civilians are not moderate nor extremely selective.

[partshark]

Sigh. "liberal jackasses". Really? There's absolutely nothing wrong with being liberal. Or conservative. Or moderate. Or an extremist. Or radical.

Those terms describe your affinity for given topics. You can be a radical conservative extremist. You can be a conservative liberal. You can be a goddamned Liberal Republican and a Conservative Democrat. You can't shoehorn everyone into a demographic because of specific ideologies or opinions. That's what's wrong with our political system. Most people are moderates. Hell, I'm a liberal who disagrees with gun control. I believe in socialism AND capitalism. I believe that religion is the cause of most problems and yet the protection of everyone's right to be ANY religion is essential.

Using these terms as an insult is ignorant and makes your opinion look uninformed. Trying to lump anyone into a group with a singularly dismissive term or phrase is wrong and tends to lead to dark paths in history. You don't need to live in fear and denial. You can be a Republican and believe in Democratic ideals without crossing party lines. It's kind of the whole fucking point of politics. Two differing viewpoints coming together for the betterment of the people. Not two different opinions stabbing each other in the face because fuck you.

[Dragoncurry]

I have been around 50 years. At no point in that time did Americans treat women as chattle, and allow women to be killed in honor killings for being seen with a man that was not a relative or showing too much skin. And lynchings were not common nor allowed. Sorry, you Fail

No, I don't fail, and you need to study American history. Women have been treated like cattle to this day. It may have not been as bad as honor killings, but it's not like women were seen at all at the same level as men or even as proper citizens. They didn't even have the right to vote. Hell, Iranian women were able to vote before American women. Historic violence against black people were uncommon during the Civil Rights Era? I fail? hahahahaha okay buddy.

[Polyxo]

Oh boy.... Radical Muslims, radical right wings, radical liberals, radical vegans, radical....

Today, everyone is a radical.

I prefer 'tubular'. Bodacious is also acceptable.

[zorkuus]

You would be correct if your point was true. This is not true, however.

I assume the major point of contention that you have is that you believe that murdering innocents (or as you will counter, "nonbelievers") is a core tenet of Islam. If I disagree with you, you intend to link me something against that from a google search that suggests that Muslims should seek out infidels and kill them where they may be, I presume?

I've read all of these documents ad nasuem, and it's not a core tenet. There's not much more to say about this issue.

It's a wide topic and not black and white. However you seem to think it is. And there's really no debate to be had because we would be banned or the thread closed if we went on.

[Dystemper]

Let me assure you Muslims who don't murder civilians are not moderate nor extremely selective.

And what were thee Muslims who slaughtered 3 million Hindu's in 1971?

[Dragoncurry]

It's a wide topic and not black and white. However you seem to think it is. And there's really no debate to be had because we would be banned or the thread closed if we went on.

I have no reason to offend you, so I doubt I would be banned. To you other point, I believe that yes, no religion can preach violence as a permanent solution. Only the leaders of the religion can, but they are motivated by political and economic agendas.

[StayTuned]

its like the 80s all over again

EVERYONE IS TOTALLY RADICAL DUUUUDDDEEE

Today I read about a knife attack in England. Not sure about details anymore. But what I remember was reading that they're looking into a suspected terror attack.

A guy with a knife is a terror attack.

Holy shit, everything nowadays is a terror attack. Lately the news were like "Extremist Muslim Radical Terrorist apprehended for plotting massive murder spree with 20 inch knife, possibly related to IS, or AQ, or Boko Haram."

As such I really welcome if politicians do not use those polarizing words anymore. Classify less attacks as terror attacks, and call terror attacks simply terror attacks.

But I know , that's too much to ask for. People want to know whether or not these guys are Muslims or not. I have no idea why, but that's how it goes.

[Dragoncurry]

And what were thee Muslims who slaughtered 3 million Hindu's in 1971?

Not Muslims. Individuals using a political agenda underscored by racism and class rivalries to murder innocents for no reason.

Also, I was born in Bangladesh and the genocide wasn't a religious one. It was a cultural genocide where Pakistan wanted to murder us for our refusal to join them culturally or change our Language. That's why our national anthem praises our language.

Our teachers and students were systematically killed, with no regard for Islam or Hinduism. My mother and father had to hide from Pakistani troops and they were both Muslim.

Nice try tho.

[Dystemper]

No, I don't fail, and you need to study American history. Women have been treated like cattle to this day. It may have not been as bad as honor killings, but it's not like women were seen at all at the same level as men or even as proper citizens. They didn't even have the right to vote. Hell, Iranian women were able to vote before American women. Historic violence against black people were uncommon during the Civil Rights Era? I fail? hahahahaha okay buddy.

You think women had it as bad as Muslim women have it? In many of these Muslim countries Gays are still killed for being gay, honor killings happen. Sex slave trade happens and is condoned. BUt you want to compare the past to whats going on noww. Yeah you do fail.