Are the recurring alleged ''censorship'' cases related to the apparent age ?

[unholytestament]

I don't know what is silly to point out that when a character is short,

Japanese woman.

have pigtails, have a childish appearance,

Fashion.

But Marie Rose, it's all those things together.

It's almost like this is a thing that people do in Japan so it makes sense that it appears in a Japanese game.

[Aori]

Well Tales of Zestiria had Edna and Symonne. Then again Bandai isn't Nintendo of America.

Either way, I think the point is moot when we have no issues slaughtering or being slaughtered as an underage character. Blood and gore? No problem! Swimsuit and bikini's? TABOO!

[sarahtasher]

Japanese woman.

Fashion.

It's almost like this is a thing that people do in Japan so it makes sense that it appears in a Japanese game.

She is from Sweden...

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Nah brah, i'd bang her.
Wait shit, she got pigtails, that mean's she's a child if we are to follow sarahtasher's logic, shiet.



Go ahead, what's stopping you?
Your attempt at some snarky comment is rather, i don't know, stupid?



Who the fuck are you to dictate the original creator's work?

No one dictate what the creator do. However, I can, and will, states that the game would be more releasable in the US without Marie Rose and especially without Marie Rose on the cover.

I never said that ''character with pigtails'' means she is a minor. Everything with Marie Rose, however, screams ''minor''.

[Dezerte]

Look people, if you want to say that Marie Rose look 18, it's your business. I really don't think she is.

On that subject, I don't care what she looks like. How a character looks shouldn't effect publishing of said art, but unfortunately it can. Now, whether that's "SJWs" or the "Sex-is-bad culture", I don't know; it could also be a marketing trick.

[unholytestament]

She is from Sweden...

And Hitomi is from Germany.

Your point?

[sarahtasher]

My point is that when people (and check on sites like Siliconera, people are trying to explain this, to be told to shut up) have no issue whatsoever with Hitomi (which looks over 18) but over Marie Rose (which does not), they don't have an issue with the nudity, but with the age.

[unholytestament]

My point is that when people (and check on sites like Siliconera, people are trying to explain this, to be told to shut up) have no issue whatsoever with Hitomi (which looks over 18) but over Marie Rose (which does not), they don't have an issue with the nudity, but with the age.

They take issue with their own perceptions of characters and constantly move the goal posts when their excuses fail to take hold.

[Aori]

Why do people think Marie Rose looks under 18?

[unholytestament]

Why do people think Marie Rose looks under 18?

Ignorance of Japanese fashion.

[sarahtasher]

How is called this gothic fashion in Japan and who wears it in fiction ?

[unholytestament]

How is called this gothic fashion in Japan and who wears it in fiction ?

Japanese video game.

Japanese fashion.

This isn't rocket science.

[sarahtasher]

Kobato in Haganai, which looks strikingly like Marie Rose (which is an example. For the record, I purchased both seasons of Haganai and the English version of the manga...and frankly, there are some scenes were the fan service is a disservice for me...) looks 18 ?

IE, characters of the ''type'' of Marie Rose, AKA ''gothic lolita'', are a staple of Japanese anime, like ''hot blooded young mecha pilot''

[Edge-]

Kobato in Haganai, which looks strikingly like Marie Rose (which is an example. For the record, I purchased both seasons of Haganai and the English version of the manga...and frankly, there are some scenes were the fan service is a disservice for me...) looks 18 ?

To you, maybe. She looks distinctly younger (and is 13-14 based on wikipedia) to me. The difference of anime vs. 3d, maybe.

[unholytestament]

Kobato in Haganai, which looks strikingly like Marie Rose (which is an example. For the record, I purchased both seasons of Haganai and the English version of the manga...and frankly, there are some scenes were the fan service is a disservice for me...) looks 18 ?

IE, characters of the ''type'' of Marie Rose, AKA ''gothic lolita'', are a staple of Japanese anime, like ''hot blooded young mecha pilot''

Yes, gothic lolita is an anime archetype. Do you think this proves something?

[sarahtasher]

What I mean is that (for instance) Kobato and Marie Rose (or, for that matter, Hansel/Gretel in Black Lagoon) are eerily similar in time of general character concept. There is a reason why the common ''gothic lolitas'' are named ''lolitas''.

You agree that Marie Rose is the archetype of the gothic lolita ? There are two strongly implicated concepts in ''gothic lolita''. One is gothic. The other is ?

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What I mean is that (for instance) Kobato and Marie Rose (or, for that matter, Hansel/Gretel in Black Lagoon) are eerily similar in time of general character concept. There is a reason why the common ''gothic lolitas'' are named ''lolitas''.

You agree that Marie Rose is the archetype of the gothic lolita ? There are two strongly implicated concepts in ''gothic lolita''. One is gothic. The other is ?

Lolita fashion (ロリータ・ファッション Rorīta fasshon) is a fashion subculture originating in Japan that is based on Victorian and Edwardian clothing

[Wondercrab]

This stuff has been happening since forever, there's just a bit of a moral panic culture (and counter-culture) latching on to it at present and giving these things a spotlight. It'll die down again within a few years once people tire of it and move on to the next thing.

[unholytestament]

What I mean is that (for instance) Kobato and Marie Rose (or, for that matter, Hansel/Gretel in Black Lagoon) are eerily similar in time of general character concept. There is a reason why the common ''gothic lolitas'' are named ''lolitas''.

You agree that Marie Rose is the archetype of the gothic lolita ? There are two strongly implicated concepts in ''gothic lolita''. One is gothic. The other is ?

And gothic lolita is a fashion subculture in Japan.

What do you think you are proving here?

[sarahtasher]

What age are usually the characters wearing this fashion in anime or videogames ?

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And gothic lolita is a fashion subculture in Japan.

What do you think you are proving here?

He obviously thinks that Lolita = loli = underage = child porn = we are all pedos

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What age are usually the characters wearing this fashion in anime or videogames ?

The same age as any other character in those media.