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    Sky Poll: 30% Support Trump's Muslim Ban Call

    Looks like Trump support is gaining in multi-national territories.


    http://news.sky.com/story/1607259/sk...uslim-ban-call


    Almost one in three Britons would support a temporary ban on Muslims entering the UK, similar to that proposed by US presidential candidate Donald Trump, a new Sky Data poll reveals.

    Some 29% of the public would back such a ban on Muslims who are not citizens of the UK coming into the country. The majority of Britons (51%) would oppose such a move, however, with 43% strongly opposing.

    It comes after Mr Trump called for a "total and complete shutdown of the Muslims entering the United States" in the wake of the mass shooting in San Bernardino, California and deadly terror attack in Paris.

    American security has become a key talking point on the campaign trail for those looking to succeed President Barack Obama in 2016.

    The Republican hopeful said in a statement: "Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life."

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    The survey also found two in three of those who voted UKIP in May (67%) would support a temporary ban on Muslims entering the UK.

    UKIP leader Nigel Farage has criticised Mr Trump’s remarks as a "massively over the top reaction to a serious situation", but also suggested the subsequent public outcry has been equally excessive.

    Older people are also more sympathetic to Mr Trump’s proposal being realised in the UK - just 38% of those aged 55 or over would oppose such a ban, with 35% in favour.

    Similarly, 32% of Britons agree that given the terrorist threat the UK faces, Mr Trump’s proposals should be "seriously considered" by British politicians, with 52% disagreeing.

    Earlier, Mr Trump was engaged in a war of words with Scottish National Party foreign spokesman Alex Salmond, who deemed the Republican frontrunner "three times a loser" after the Trump Organisation lost its court battle over the wind turbines being built near his golf course.

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    Mr Salmond had previously branded the Republican frontrunner’s remarks as "hate preaching" and "bigotry", and revealed he has signed a petition to ban him from entering the UK on grounds of hate speech.


    The petition to ban Mr Trump from the UK has gained over 500,000 signatures. Calls to ban Mr Trump were rejected by David Cameron at PMQs, although he described his remarks as "divisive, stupid and wrong".

    The public are divided as to whether to ban Mr Trump on grounds of hate speech. Three in ten (31%) support banning him, while 37% agree with the Prime Minister that he should not be banned.

    This comes despite six in ten Britons (57%) saying Mr Trump’s proposals are intended to "stir up racial hatred", with just 25% disagreeing.

    Such a definition could see Mr Trump in contravention of British hate speech legislation. The Public Order Act 1986 states that:

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    "A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if:

    (a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or

    (b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby."

    Sky Data interviewed a nationally representative sample of 1,021 Sky customers online 11-16 December 2015. Data weighted to match the profile of the population.

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    2nd British empire when?

    im kidding, don't trust trump, too much of his money comes from kissing Rothschild ass.
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    It's a good thing it's unconstitutional then, because that's going to require 2/3 vote+ratification.

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    So in other words, everyone except the Tories and far-right are against it, and some Tories are against it.

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    I guess 30% of the Brits are sick of being over run by a culture that does not hold British values in very high esteem.

    Nigel Farage says hi!

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    How would you even uphold it?
    Are you Muslim?
    Terrorist - No
    Welcome To America

    NEXT

    Are you Muslim?
    Innocent person - "Yes"
    Get back on the boat/plane

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    Probably has a lot to do with the whole refugee situation as well, not just fear of Muslims in general.

    Not sure how big of an issue it is in the UK though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    How would you even uphold it?
    Are you Muslim?
    Terrorist - No
    Welcome To America

    NEXT

    Are you Muslim?
    Innocent person - "Yes"
    Get back on the boat/plane
    Ban anyone with a beard, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    How would you even uphold it?
    Pretty easily, actually.

    You begin by banning anyone - ANYONE - from any Middle Eastern country where the religion is predominately Muslim.

    There is a couple of other ways I can think of but I will just get banned for being "racist" (even though Muslim is NOT a race.)

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    I wonder if that 30% actually understand how he plans to enforce this... Basically people will be asked if they're muslim before entering... Yeah that's gonna stop terrorism

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    And who exactly are these 30%? Where did they get these people from?

    30% of the people that Sky asked, a news channel known for sensationalism and cheap drama?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Pretty easily, actually.

    You begin by banning anyone - ANYONE - from any Middle Eastern country where the religion is predominately Muslim.

    There is a couple of other ways I can think of but I will just get banned for being "racist" (even though Muslim is NOT a race.)
    Middle East has more than Islam

    Ironically Trump made a fortune from Muslims

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    30% accounts for the lower end of the bell curve I guess.
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    About the same number as those who think Obama wasn't born in America and is thus an illegitimate President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    About the same number as those who think Obama wasn't born in America and is thus an illegitimate President.
    Somebody has that south park scene in which Cartman tells kyle that 1 in 4 Americans believe 9/11 is a conspiracy, and then Kyle tells him 1 in 4 Americans are idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firespark View Post
    And who exactly are these 30%? Where did they get these people from?

    30% of the people that Sky asked, a news channel known for sensationalism and cheap drama?
    Just to point out, the data sources are published at the bottom of the article.

    Also to mention, this poll is conducted in the exact same way as any poll.....by asking a select few people who are deemed representatives of the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransath View Post
    Pretty easily, actually.

    You begin by banning anyone - ANYONE - from any Middle Eastern country where the religion is predominately Muslim.

    There is a couple of other ways I can think of but I will just get banned for being "racist" (even though Muslim is NOT a race.)
    How does that work when there are Muslims living in practically every country on earth ? There's a few million who are British and French citizens for example. You may as well have said "ban all brown people".... but even that wont work because plenty of Muslims are white too (and i'm not just talking about recent converts in European countries)... Most muslims from the Caucus' and Balkan areas of Europe are white and you wouldn't really be able to tell them from any other person based on appearance (especially if hey shaved their beard which is something any would be terrorist would be prepared to do for their cause if it was necessary).

    So what next ? Keep a supply of pork sausage rolls at every air port in America to pork test everyone ? Lets face it, Trump's idea is unworkable.

    I'd also love to know how Trumps register of Muslims idea is meant to help prevent terrorism too. So you've got all these peoples names on a list.... Then what ? Also how do you ensure all Muslims names end up on that list ? How do you identify if someone is Muslim or not if they choose not to disclose that information ? If someone has Muslim parents but aren't practicing themselves would they go on the list for example ? If someone had once been a practicing Muslim but no longer follows the faith do they go on the list ? How do you prove or disprove who's a Muslim for a list like this if they choose not to cooperate by being dishonest ? You can't....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    It's a good thing it's unconstitutional then, because that's going to require 2/3 vote+ratification.
    What's unconstitutional about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    It's a good thing it's unconstitutional then, because that's going to require 2/3 vote+ratification.
    It's not read the constitution some time chap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    It's a good thing it's unconstitutional then, because that's going to require 2/3 vote+ratification.
    It's a British poll. Not US.

    All it really shows is that there's idiots in every society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    What's unconstitutional about it?
    Because it's mean!!!!!
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