Sky Poll: 30% Support Trump's Muslim Ban Call

[Zandalarian Paladin]

When I said banning trump from the UK would be completely ironic - and worthless - considering many would support him in any case directly in the UK... that's what I meant.

[Kraenen]

Because it's mean!!!!!
Sarcasm

I think they've just heard of vague notions of freedom of religion and "no religious tests" and conclude based off that, in a hipster "im a liberal and pro constitution your conservative and dont know da constitution" kind of way that this would be unconstitutional.

[Ripster42]

What's unconstitutional about it?

It's attached to the free exercise of religion. It's been expanded upon to mean you can't discriminate based upon religion. I'm guessing you either had a terrible civics class, didn't have a civics class, or you're not from the US.

[Kraenen]

It's attached to the free exercise of religion. It's been expanded upon to mean you can't discriminate based upon religion. I'm guessing you either had a terrible civics class, didn't have a civics class, or you're not from the US.

I'm just asking you to argue your point

[JohnBrown1917]

I'm just asking you to argue your point

I know that my country has freedom of religion in its constitution. If the US is the same, then you don't really have much to argue about.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I'm just asking you to argue your point

It's been argued to death. Some far right lawyers say it's constitutional. Most of the center and left say it's unconstitutional.

[Bushtuckrman]

2nd British empire when?

im kidding, don't trust trump, too much of his money comes from kissing Rothschild ass.

Pretty easy to see who has strings attached to them, this is like 6 weeks ago

[Kraenen]

I know that my country has freedom of religion in its constitution. If the US is the same, then you don't really have much to argue about.

I'm just wondering if it applies to non-US citizens abroad, and what the precedent for it is. Also they've denied entry for a belgian communist before - this begs the question of defining what religion is and is not implicitly, therefore breaking the 1st amendment. What deems religion of significantly more protection than a political ideology or nationality? I just find this Trump Muslim ban brings up some interesting issues.

[primalmatter]

Because it's mean!!!!!
Sarcasm

As a older gentlemen I sometimes wonder how we became this... We should of cracked the heads of hippies harder maybe it could of prevented all this.

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Probably has a lot to do with the whole refugee situation as well, not just fear of Muslims in general.

Not sure how big of an issue it is in the UK though.

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Ban anyone with a beard, obviously.

Your doing it wrong, we need to ban anyone with a beard... and a slight tan. Can't half ass this plan because terrorists are honest and will totally not lie about being Muslim.

[Kraenen]

Your doing it wrong ban anyone with a beard... and a slight tan. Can't half ass this plan because terrorist are honest and will totally not lie about being Muslim.

Strangely enough that seems more constitutional and feasible than Trump's plan

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

Strangely enough that seems more constitutional and feasible than Trump's plan

foo foo/raybourne 2020?

[alexw]

As a older gentlemen I sometimes wonder how we became this... We should of cracked the heads of hippies harder maybe it could of prevented all this.

The country does not revolve around old white heterosexual males anymore so I suggest you get over yourself.

[ButterBeast]

The country does not revolve around old white heterosexual males anymore so I suggest you get over yourself.

the sky is falling.

[Cthulhu 2020]

As a older gentlemen I sometimes wonder how we became this... We should of cracked the heads of hippies harder maybe it could of prevented all this.

As an older gentleman, it seems you don't understand why most see why banning the travel of a religion to the US is retarded.

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The country does not revolve around old white heterosexual males anymore so I suggest you get over yourself.

Check your privilege yo.

[primalmatter]

The country does not revolve around old white heterosexual males anymore so I suggest you get over yourself.

Yeah you are doing a bang up job compared to us...

[Theinquisition]

I'm just wondering if it applies to non-US citizens abroad, and what the precedent for it is. Also they've denied entry for a belgian communist before - this begs the question of defining what religion is and is not implicitly, therefore breaking the 1st amendment. What deems religion of significantly more protection than a political ideology or nationality? I just find this Trump Muslim ban brings up some interesting issues.

Simple solution.

Bar the issuing of visas to nations where the predominate religion is Islamic.

[Deleted]

Simple solution.

Bar the issuing of visas to nations where the predominate religion is Islamic.

I borrowed your signature. Hope you don't mind

[Kalis]

So in other words, everyone except the Tories and far-right are against it, and some Tories are against it.

It didn't work out that way:

Would you support or oppose a temporary ban on all Muslims who are citizens of foreign countries from entering the United Kingdom?

Conservative 23% support 58% opposed
Labour 23% support 54% opposed
SNP 30% support 58% opposed
Liberals 9% support 67% opposed
UKIP 67% support 18% opposed

Conservative, Labour and SNP are all fairly similar, UKIP are pretty much where you'd expect them to be and the Lib Dems are as well.


The geographical split:

North 29% support 51% opposed
South 26% support 53% opposed
Midlands/Wales 35% support 47% opposed
London 7% support 67% opposed
Scotland 33% support 43% opposed

Londoners are the least likely to want a ban, by some distance, almost mirroring the Lib Dem figures. Oop North and the South are fairly similar to the Conservative/Labour/SNP figures, but those from Scotland, Wales and the Midlands are most likely to support a ban.

Londoners being more tolerant is unsurprising, we have a broader cultural mix.

[announced]

The UK is infested with Muslims everywhere, same with Germanistan and Swedistan, its an epidemic. their countries are slowly being ruined.

Simple solution.

Bar the issuing of visas to nations where the predominate religion is Islamic.

this might actually work. I'm also for banning all brown people with a beard and ones that can speak Arabic, or Farsi, Arminian, Kurdish. they can also renounce Islam and as a death cult.

keep in mind this is just an experiment, say we consider letting some back inside the US in perhaps 2-3 years.