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    Enhancement Healing

    I'd like ti know how are people not shouting at Blizzard about Enhancement ability to keep self up in PvP?

    Enhancement on live today is far worse that Retr during launch yet Retr people made videos, hundreds of QQ posts...Enhancement not a whisper...why??

    Even after the recent healing nurf the build has x2 full HP bars on its own at least with a solid sustained healing ...

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    Yeah that healing matters so much when basically any class can kite and stun a shaman to the end of days, they lack toolkit in survival so they get good healing, which also makes them sacrifice the little to no dmg they already have.

    And the bitching bout ret was the insane healing AND damage. Enhanc is only healing. once they need to start healing themselfs they do shit all on dmg side.

    If you feel enhanc is bad, then you havent met a proper feral yet.
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    I'm sorry but you are obviously bias if you state enh damage is 'low' the build has plenty of damage and burst!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnydee View Post
    Yeah that healing matters so much when basically any class can kite and stun a shaman to the end of days, they lack toolkit in survival so they get good healing, which also makes them sacrifice the little to no dmg they already have.
    I audibly laughed.

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    Now you are twisting my words, don't do that.

    i stated once they need to start healing, they do shit dmg. yes they have a good opening burst, but after that, they need that healing to stay alive since they will most likely not kill an oponent unless said oponent fucks up. Outside their ascendance and wolfs what are you afraid of? the 2k dmg from frost shock or the 5k LB?
    And if you arent kiting and LOSing a ascendance shaman and facetank them, then you are the one doing extremly wrong.

    Looking at your previous threads, you main a feral druid in pvp, and you have the guts to complain? amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnydee View Post
    Now you are twisting my words, don't do that.

    i stated once they need to start healing, they do shit dmg.
    Exhibit A:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnydee View Post
    Yeah that healing matters so much when basically any class can kite and stun a shaman to the end of days, they lack toolkit in survival so they get good healing, which also makes them sacrifice the little to no dmg they already have.
    Enhancement has EVERYTHING going for it right now. Big damage, spammable dispel, big heals and massive defenses, and unkitable for all but hunters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnydee View Post
    Now you are twisting my words, don't do that.

    i stated once they need to start healing, they do shit dmg. yes they have a good opening burst, but after that, they need that healing to stay alive since they will most likely not kill an oponent unless said oponent fucks up. Outside their ascendance and wolfs what are you afraid of? the 2k dmg from frost shock or the 5k LB?
    And if you arent kiting and LOSing a ascendance shaman and facetank them, then you are the one doing extremly wrong.

    Looking at your previous threads, you main a feral druid in pvp, and you have the guts to complain? amazing.
    No..Enh healing is retarded. I play shaman I've played enh.

    It's stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by solarfallz View Post
    Exhibit A:


    Enhancement has EVERYTHING going for it right now. Big damage, spammable dispel, big heals and massive defenses, and unkitable for all but hunters.
    Quote Originally Posted by solarfallz View Post
    Exhibit A:


    Enhancement has EVERYTHING going for it right now. Big damage, spammable dispel, big heals and massive defenses, and unkitable for all but hunters.

    I dont even lmao
    Every class in the game appart from priests and warlocks can kite enh shamans araund all day long. Even shamans can kite shamans. Their about as mobile as a death knight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ettan View Post

    I dont even lmao
    Every class in the game appart from priests and warlocks can kite enh shamans araund all day long. Even shamans can kite shamans. Their about as mobile as a death knight.
    This is because other shamans are actually using the tools given to them, while you are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solarfallz View Post
    This is because other shamans are actually using the tools given to them, while you are not.
    Wow yes obviusly Its because of my total lack of skill
    Please teach me to become as good as you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ettan View Post
    Wow yes obviusly Its because of my total lack of skill
    Please teach me to become as good as you are.
    If your beeing kited as a enhance shaman your doing something VERY wrong. So yes, you seems rather clueless.

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    you can stop the Healing Surges easily enough, it the AG+Ascendance combo that keeps them alive for days.

    Interupt the healing surges and lock them down in ascendance with stun/silence/los/kiting and then resume blowing them up.

    As spriest its easy to counter. Time Spectral Guise just right and Disperse for their opening ascendance - throw in a psychic horror and their burst/healing is gone.

    basicly you have to know when to attack or when to play offensive or when to hold. Shamans are super easy to read, you know when they are dangerous and when they are not. adjust yourself accordingly.

    But yes their healing can be pretty crazy.
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    Im wondering even more about ferals...that shit is unreeaaaaal.

    Yesterday i did the cap with my m8 and we played mage/rdruid. We faced mage/feral. After the mage died it took me about 2 min to kill the feral. He wasnt even running around boxes and shit. Sometimes i was spammin my icelance procs on him and when i was done, his hp was higher then before. In that game he healed like 70% of my rdruid m8 lol.

    When we play double dps rogue/SP we lose 100% to all teams who have a feral. If you go for the feral there is no way he would die and when you go for his partner feral rapes us with insane burst dmg.

    Im not saying our comps would be perfect, we just play what we have. We for sure make a lot of mistakes. It is just really obvious that when there is a feral out there that we will lose xD

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    Ferals aren't really an issue if you keep them dispelled. you can anticipate them pretty easily. boom no healing=dead kitty.
    Its even better since 90% of them will use skullbash as a gap closer, them are the easy ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avada Kedavra View Post
    Ferals aren't really an issue if you keep them dispelled. you can anticipate them pretty easily. boom no healing=dead kitty.
    Its even better since 90% of them will use skullbash as a gap closer, them are the easy ones.
    Lol. What. Incarnation last 30 seconds which is at least triple the duration of every defensive cool down in the game. You can use Incarn with Nature's vigil in the same way Enh uses AG Ascendance except the window for healing is double that of the Shaman CDs.

    Also if you are wasting a GCD to purge every time he is putting a hot up then you are losing because his dots are probably raping you while you play ring around the rosey with purge/rejuv.

    and if someone is using skull bash as a gap closer then they would never be an issue on any class because they are fucking terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnydee View Post
    the little to no dmg they already have.
    After watching my friend for the past few weeks play his enhancement shaman, I find this statement hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ettan View Post

    I dont even lmao
    Every class in the game appart from priests and warlocks can kite enh shamans araund all day long. Even shamans can kite shamans. Their about as mobile as a death knight.
    This is BS, shamans aren't easy to kite. You have ghost wolf (glyph mandatory for pvp) so you never run slower than 100%, you shit slows with autoattacks + ranged slow, freedom totem on low cd + reset cd on it if you need more, sprint with snare breaker baked into it, some ranged damage and pets that will keep smacking even if you can't stay on top of your target... Enhancement isn't easy to kite, tbh they can keep up with hunters easily. Oh and you can break magic effects (and stuns) with glyphed Shamanistic Rage. If you are getting kited by everything on your enhance, you are doing it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cempa View Post
    I'd like ti know how are people not shouting at Blizzard about Enhancement ability to keep self up in PvP?

    Enhancement on live today is far worse that Retr during launch yet Retr people made videos, hundreds of QQ posts...Enhancement not a whisper...why??

    Even after the recent healing nurf the build has x2 full HP bars on its own at least with a solid sustained healing ...
    enhance healing is more constant then ret was but ret also had better team utility, with burst healing

    and people complain about turbo all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by melzas View Post
    This is BS, shamans aren't easy to kite. You have ghost wolf (glyph mandatory for pvp) so you never run slower than 100%, you shit slows with autoattacks + ranged slow, freedom totem on low cd + reset cd on it if you need more, sprint with snare breaker baked into it, some ranged damage and pets that will keep smacking even if you can't stay on top of your target... Enhancement isn't easy to kite, tbh they can keep up with hunters easily. Oh and you can break magic effects (and stuns) with glyphed Shamanistic Rage. If you are getting kited by everything on your enhance, you are doing it wrong.
    you don't use ghost wolf glyph as enhance or glyph sham rage is exceptionally rare, and while enhance isn't the easiest thing to kite, hunters have zero issues with kiting them, kill windwalk and its a walk in the park

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    enhance healing is more constant then ret was but ret also had better team utility, with burst healing

    and people complain about turbo all the time.

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    you don't use ghost wolf glyph as enhance or glyph sham rage is exceptionally rare, and while enhance isn't the easiest thing to kite, hunters have zero issues with kiting them, kill windwalk and its a walk in the park
    to be fair hunter's kite everyone

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    Blizzard doesn't give a crap about WoD. I mean yeah sure Enhance is a completely toxic and broken spec and it literally makes you wanna alt f4 when you fight one of them. It's like when they talked about Enhance gameplay in WoD they thought to themselves 'why should you be expected to actually play decently? Just tunnel a target and if you screw up just heal yourself lol'


    Enjoy those last few months of misery and bad gameplay.
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