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    Bernie isn't "electable"? Think again.



    Choose Hillary as the nominee and the president will be a Republican.

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    Bernie is going to crumble once political meat grinder starts on him, look what they have done to trump, Bernie doesn't have the money or the courage to absorb that much abuse from the spider web of globalism. Hillary was declared winner a few years ago, the only ones who don't know it are the Bernie voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    Bernie is going to crumble once political meat grinder starts on him, look what they have done to trump, Bernie doesn't have the money or the courage to absorb that much abuse from the spider web of globalism. Hillary was declared winner a few years ago, the only ones who don't know it are the Bernie voters.
    Do you really think Bernie dont have the courage to stand up to the establishment? I think he Will be just fine im more worried the people are gonna buy all the dung they are gonna throw at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deianeira View Post
    Do you really think Bernie dont have the courage to stand up to the establishment? I think he Will be just fine im more worried the people are gonna buy all the dung they are gonna throw at him.
    Bernie doesn't have any courage, did you see those 2 black girls mug him and take his microphone?. He stood about 20ft away and put his head down in cowardess. He is a coward and doesn't deserve to ever be commander in chief. Bernie has fire but no heart, 2 thumbs down. You either have courage or you don't. Notice how he has a gigantic black body guard named "killer Mike" now?, what a wussy Bernie is and a phony coward.
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    Bernie is now leading in national polls. Bernie is now, by far, the more electable candidate. Not Hillary.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/02/24/ber...rly_all_month/
    http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TR131



    This is something the big corporations that comprise the mainstream media won't want you to know. They'll never tell you Bernie is actually in the lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    Bernie isn't "electable"? Think again.
    It's not that he isn't electable, it's that there are degrees of electability, and the big problem now is that it looks a lot like Trump will be the GOP nominee, and in an election against Trump Bernie will have a much lower chance of being elected than Hillary.

    To explain this further, left wing voters almost always vote for the leftist candidate and right wing voters almost always vote for the rightist candidate, the ones that can be swayed and make the difference are the centre voters. Trump is a centre right candidate (who many like Cruz maintain is really a centre left candidate), Hillary is centre left and Sanders is far left (in comparison to the other two).

    A centre left candidate has a much better chance against a centre right candidate than a far left candidate because they will appeal to more of the voters who can be swung in their favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    in an election against Trump Bernie will have a much lower chance of being elected than Hillary.
    Not according to the polls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    Not according to the polls.
    Well, to be fair, it's kind of a moot point. Hillary will be the dem nominees. Even if Sanders is the popular choice, the delegates will go to her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    Well, to be fair, it's kind of a moot point. Hillary will be the dem nominees. Even if Sanders is the popular choice, the delegates will go to her.
    Just like they did in 2008!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    Hillary will be the dem nominees.
    Unless, of course, the FBI investigation that is underway, in which the Justice Department is now involved, finally makes Hillary ineligible to run.

    But, you're right of course; the DNC will nominate Hillary and in doing so, give away the presidency, for free, to Donald Trump.

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    There's a reason why so many people think Sanders is done. If every single mainstream outlet, like the Clinton News Network for example, keeps indoctrinating people, that's what they'll start repeating, as well.


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    I love all the bernie fans, Lets feel the Bern but not show up election day to make sure he wins super tuesday.

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    Also... Even Hillary feels the Bern:



    Hillary is such a complete fake weather vane; she turns wherever the people want her to turn. She's started to become a complete copy of Bernie because she knows Bernie is extremely popular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujako View Post
    Just like they did in 2008!
    The problem is that Obama did a good job of fooling people he was anti-establishment but he was taking a ton of the banks money at the same time, and moving and shaking with the establishment players. I could see some kind of coup d'etat if Bernie were to get elected, the product of some kind of legal chicanery. There's lots of ways to do that.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results
    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/maine

    Bernie won three out of the four primaries this weekend. As of right now, Bernie got 66 delegates to Hillary's 63. Surely not huge gains, but the reality is, Sanders won this weekend, both in states (75% of the states) and in delegates.

    Will the mainstream media show it in that light? Of course not. When Hillary wins by 1%, it counts as a huge victory. When Hillary wins by less than what she was supposed to according to the polls, it counts as a huge victory.

    When Sanders wins, crickets.

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    Bernie won my state (Maine)! I feel special right now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sydänyö View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results
    http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/maine

    Bernie won three out of the four primaries this weekend. As of right now, Bernie got 66 delegates to Hillary's 63. Surely not huge gains, but the reality is, Sanders won this weekend, both in states (75% of the states) and in delegates.

    Will the mainstream media show it in that light? Of course not. When Hillary wins by 1%, it counts as a huge victory. When Hillary wins by less than what she was supposed to according to the polls, it counts as a huge victory.

    When Sanders wins, crickets.
    Yeah good for him for winning 3 tiny states to her 1 large one.

    She went in with a 200 pledged delegate lead, she came out with a 200 pledged delegate lead. He needs to win Michigan, he needs to win Ohio and he needs to win Florida by BIG margins. Like 10-20% if he wants to stay in this race. Even a tie is pointless, a tie isn't going to start catching up to her 200 delegates.

    He needs to steamroll her tuesday and then the 15th and then he has a shot -- Otherwise he's going to be deemed a "message campaign"

    And don't say he hasn't gotten media coverage, he got MAJOR media coverage back in Iowa/NH, the media turned for a solid month in Jan to feb about how he's mounting a campaign to beat hillary and that she's going to be the underdog and that it's 2008 all over again...

    But he couldn't keep up the wins, so he lost the momentum and the media. Now she has a huge lead, the media isn't going to flick back to him for making -no- gains in delegates.

    IF, and IF, he wins big states, the media will shift to his "comeback"

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    Didn't he also run in 1916?

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    Bernie's problem is this, he wins the small states by small to medium-ish margins, loses the big ones by big margins.

    He's prob gonna lose both states on tuesday, all 5 on march 15th. Then he goes to the 22nd, he could win Utah and Idaho, but they're very small delegate pools and he'll probably have a 55-45 or 60-40 margin, but she'll win Washington probably big large margins, once again giving her huge delegate gains and putting him behind.

    Same thing could happen on the 26th, he could win alaska and hawaii, but she'll win Arizona the biggest state there. This is his issue, he wins small states by 55-45 or 60-40, then loses big ones 65-35 or 70-30, that's not going to get him the nomination. Sure he'll have a lot of wins by the end, but he sure won't have a lot of delegates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynestra View Post
    She went in with a 200 pledged delegate lead
    Which, to be honest, isn't that huge of a lead.

    It's only when you add in the undemocratic superdelegates that her lead seems so big. If the superdelegates vote against what the people want, then why do they exist? They're not representing what the people want. If they vote for the person who wins delegates anyway, then why do they exist? Their votes don't matter. Either way, superdelegates shouldn't matter.

    https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/st...19827535462401



    So yeah... Apparently the president isn't decided by the people. It's hilarious that even the Republicans don't have superdelegates.

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