[Megathread] Bernie Sanders 2016

[Yvaelle]

Fuck Bernie and fuck beaners #gtfo

I'm sensing a lot of hostility from you, your aura is red right now, why don't we do some yogic breathing exercises to calm down

[Theodarzna]

Fuck Bernie and fuck beaners #gtfo

So you would say your are..... Anti-Bernie? What is your attitude towards him? Please express it via an expletive, and describe him only as "guy."

[Deleted]

Cenk is back with some news about how under the heel of Wall Street Clinton really is.



Think you'll see Warren as the VP pick? Think again.

- - - Updated - - -

Well, it does seem Hillary is a bit concerned about the people who voted for Sanders, after all.



Trying to go for the young people with "cool" Vines such as this one:



Does she not understand what fake is? Such cringe. Such, such cringe.

[Macaquerie]

I feel like a major misstep of Bernie's campaign is that he kept touting the successes of socialist policies in Europe, particularly Scandinavia, as a model that we should follow, and this just seems so out of touch in light of the embarassingly retrograde activism we see out of Europe these days. Socialism in Europe does seem to have a toxic racial and ethnic component to it, and while people feel a sense of entitlement to the benefits they receive from the state, they will fight like hell to keep those benefits from going to outsiders.

[Deleted]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...support-224548

Sanders' anti-superdelegate push gains steam in Senate

A growing number of Democratic senators support reforming the party’s superdelegate system — a move that would dilute their own power in the presidential nominating process but satisfy Bernie Sanders and his millions of supporters as Democrats move to unify for the general election.

Politico interviewed nearly 20 of Sanders’ colleagues over the past week and found a surprisingly strong appetite for change, including among influential members of the party establishment such as Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), a top prospect for vice president.

[nextormento]

Does she not understand what fake is? Such cringe. Such, such cringe.

It's groovy af.

[Daerio]

Cenk is back with some news about how under the heel of Wall Street Clinton really is.



Think you'll see Warren as the VP pick? Think again.

Wall street can't risk being one heartbeat away from legitimate federal regulation.

[therayeffect]

I'm not ignoring the argument. There is nothing in your pictures that is inconsistent with Google's statements. They don't put disparaging information in an auto-complete with a person's name. Doesn't matter who it is. Go search "Charles Manson" and see what the auto complete says. "Charles Manson dead, Charles Manson children, Charles Manson 2016, Charles Manson wife." Hmm nothing in the autocomplete about murdering multiple people. Google must be in the sack for him too! Now try "Brock Turner." "Brock Turner letter, Brock Turner judge, Brock Turner statement." Hmm only things peripherally related to the ONLY thing he is publicly known for, RAPING AN UNCONSCIOUS WOMAN. Google must be on his side too... Or it is EXACTLY like they said, they don't put negative and disparaging information in autocomplete results that have a person's name.

Give it up. This was a manufactured conspiracy that you fell for. No shame in that. Just ask a few more questions next time before believing something just because you want it to be true.

So her factual vote is somehow a controversy that should be shunned. This is literally what you're arguing. I'm not going to give up because one person disagrees with me. You're literally dancing around the issue so I'll spell it out. If it was only based on what they said, then things should be showing up differently. Even in their release they aren't 100% specific on what is going on.

- - - Updated - - -

Shot up is a bit of an exaggeration. They found a single hole in a window and never found a bullet. Also I can't find any evidence that they filed a report for the apartments that were supposedly ransacked. It was a carefully worded statement in which any apartment in the complex could have been broken into and still be a "true" statement.

With that said I don't care if he still has secret service protection. It was just an incredibly shitty way for him to respond to accusations that his supporters were making death threats.

"His supporters" Are you talking about those phone calls that were made to the Nevada official? I really hope you aren't because the media was shady as fuck about that entire situation. They blatantly lied about 'violence' and once they got called out on it, quickly dropped using that word from their discussions about it and yet still tried to imply the 'chaos' was Sanders' fault. For all we know, it could've been Hillary Clinton supporters. They've done crazy shit in the past like circulate stuff about Obama back in 2007 to imply he was a Muslim or not born in the US. I haven't watched 24/7 since then but I have yet to see any info on those criminals being searched for or even caught. I think those people who sent those threats to that Nevada official should be arrested and thrown in jail. On top of that, there's no concrete evidence that I've seen that directly implies they were Bernie Sanders supporters. As far as I know and as far as Google seems to know, they're just 'nameless and faceless' Bernie supporters.

- - - Updated - - -

Cenk is back with some news about how under the heel of Wall Street Clinton really is.

Think you'll see Warren as the VP pick? Think again.

- - - Updated - - -

Well, it does seem Hillary is a bit concerned about the people who voted for Sanders, after all.

Trying to go for the young people with "cool" Vines such as this one:

Does she not understand what fake is? Such cringe. Such, such cringe.

I may dislike TYT a lot for their obvious yellow-journalism but sometimes they seem to get it right. It still stings that Bernie couldn't point to this kind of shit as a good way to underline just how bought Clinton is back during one of their debates. Wall Street says jump and she says 'How High?' She could still pick Warren as a sort of 'smooth-over' but Warren never really supported Sanders so I don't know if that'll work to get a decent percentage to actually vote for Clinton. Warren is kind of a lightning rod too. Honestly, I generally think that Bernie should stay in the race until the FBI thing is decided and he shouldn't support her until that has been decided as well. It's a serious responsibility that he can still do in order to save progress from the establishment who anointed someone under criminal investigation before a single vote was even cast. Bernie will be able to maintain that outsider status and either swoop in to 'fight the establishment' and 'save us from Trump' or sort of work together with Clinton to 'defeat Trump' and 'Go for real progress' or something like that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/changing_lanes/2016/05/31/doug_schoen_who_will_hillary_clinton_pick_as_her_vice_president.html

[Matchles]

So her factual vote is somehow a controversy that should be shunned. This is literally what you're arguing. I'm not going to give up because one person disagrees with me. You're literally dancing around the issue so I'll spell it out. If it was only based on what they said, then things should be showing up differently. Even in their release they aren't 100% specific on what is going on.

No your example was obviously the fact she received a patriot award and visited a patriot center while campaigning. Add to that the fact that votes on the Patriot Act haven't been newsworthy in a decade. And this is somehow Google covering for her? Please.

"His supporters" Are you talking about those phone calls that were made to the Nevada official? I really hope you aren't because the media was shady as fuck about that entire situation. They blatantly lied about 'violence' and once they got called out on it, quickly dropped using that word from their discussions about it and yet still tried to imply the 'chaos' was Sanders' fault. For all we know, it could've been Hillary Clinton supporters. They've done crazy shit in the past like circulate stuff about Obama back in 2007 to imply he was a Muslim or not born in the US. I haven't watched 24/7 since then but I have yet to see any info on those criminals being searched for or even caught. I think those people who sent those threats to that Nevada official should be arrested and thrown in jail. On top of that, there's no concrete evidence that I've seen that directly implies they were Bernie Sanders supporters. As far as I know and as far as Google seems to know, they're just 'nameless and faceless' Bernie supporters.

Oh yes. The whole false flag operation. For some reason despite the fact Clinton was kicking the shit out of Sanders and it was never really a race, her campaign is organizing bad press for Sanders by having supporters call in death threats. This is beyond ridiculous. You obviously didn't look very hard when you floated this idea. But here.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...chair-20160518

Rolling Stone spoke to several of the men who sent Lange angry, menacing text messages to find out what was going through their heads as they pelted a stranger with epithets and threats, both veiled or explicit, to her and her family's safety, and to find out if — as some diehard Sanders supporters have suggested — they were actually Clinton campaign operatives out to smear Bernie.

They were not. All of the men we spoke to were genuine Sanders supporters, most with well-documented histories online of feeling the Bern. (Although only their first names are used below and their phone numbers have been redacted, we verified all of their identities.)

[Deleted]

Yeah. Stuff works?

It's funny, California might actually go for Bernie, but not according to any of the mainstream outlets who already called it long before all ballots were counted. Not that it changes much, but yeah, great proof of how useless it is to vote. Why should you vote, when your vote doesn't get counted? Pointless.

- - - Updated - - -

More of these numbers people love to ignore. Bloomberg this time.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...upport-clinton

A June 14th Bloomberg Politics national poll of likely voters in November’s election found that barely half of those who favored Sanders — 55 percent — plan to vote for Clinton. Instead, 22 percent say they’ll vote for Trump, while 18 percent favor Libertarian Gary Johnson.

"They'll come around."
"They'll fall in line."
"Polls don't mean anything."

That's what you typically hear. The issue is still making news though. Go figure.

[derpkitteh]

oh shit, trump's hitting clinton right now with some heavy shit that i wish bernie would have had the balls to do.

[Kujako]

oh shit, trump's hitting clinton right now with some heavy shit that i wish bernie would have had the balls to do.

Too bad none of it's real... never understood why people can't find reality based reasons to dislike Hillary, there are plenty to choose from without this kind of nonsense.

[Deleted]

never understood why people can't find reality based reasons to dislike Hillary

Umm... You're kidding, right? There's a shitton of people out there who not only dislike Hillary, but hate her guts, not for these email and Benghazi and other BS issues, but her policies and hawkishness and other very real, very relevant attributes. She wouldn't be the most hated Democratic candidate in polling history if it was only the right side of the aisle harping on her because of made-up issues.

Which, honestly, we can't even yet be sure the whole email thing is. I'll wait for all the emails to drop on WikiLeaks and for the FBI criminal investigation to come to a conclusion first.

[Kujako]

Umm... You're kidding, right? There's a shitton of people out there who not only dislike Hillary, but hate her guts, not for these email and Benghazi and other BS issues, but her policies and hawkishness and other very real, very relevant attributes.

But all I hear from her opponents, is the nonsense Trump is spouting.

[Tijuana]

Why is this thread still open?

[Deleted]

Why is this thread still open?

Why wouldn't it be? The DNC hasn't been held yet. It will be held on July 25th through 28th, and until then Bernie Sanders isn't going anywhere.

[Dextroden]

Why is this thread still open?

Because sore losers are entertaining to watch.

[derpkitteh]

But all I hear from her opponents, is the nonsense Trump is spouting.

this isn't nonsense. her influence is one of the reasons that the middle east is such a hellhole.

- - - Updated - - -

ROFL, this stupid fucking cunt on CNN has hit a wall.

can't truly dispute trump's charges against her so he says "i don't think a man would be treated this way" what a fucking cowardly waste of life rofl

[therayeffect]

No your example was obviously the fact she received a patriot award and visited a patriot center while campaigning. Add to that the fact that votes on the Patriot Act haven't been newsworthy in a decade. And this is somehow Google covering for her? Please.




Oh yes. The whole false flag operation. For some reason despite the fact Clinton was kicking the shit out of Sanders and it was never really a race, her campaign is organizing bad press for Sanders by having supporters call in death threats. This is beyond ridiculous. You obviously didn't look very hard when you floated this idea. But here.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...chair-20160518

Then I hope they went to jail. I did Google and try to find that information but no results turned up that answered my question. All that does is prove there are shitheads in every camp. I didn't see any negative background bias from Rolling Stone even if I want to scoff at a pop-culture news source. It still doesn't clear Clinton's supporters (the media) for what they lied about and that's the entire point of my arguments. The news we get about Clinton is so biased. We see Trump saying and doing stupid stuff but a lot of it is cutup and out of context quotes and then people are like Trump's racist!!! but they aren't given the information of how Clinton supported an actual Grand Wizard from the KKK.

We both know the race wasn't so one-sided. If the race was so one-sided why did they bother to change the rules while ignoring the will of the people in Nevada? Truth is, she had the race of her life on her hands and barely made it and still has hurdles to clear. I'm still hoping for the heroic FBI to swoop in and save us from Clinton but I know damn well the Democrats would try to shove in anyone but Sanders.

- - - Updated - - -

this isn't nonsense. her influence is one of the reasons that the middle east is such a hellhole.

- - - Updated - - -

ROFL, this stupid fucking cunt on CNN has hit a wall.

can't truly dispute trump's charges against her so he says "i don't think a man would be treated this way" what a fucking cowardly waste of life rofl

If they can't argue against the facts, they have to makeup some sort of pandering story. "Trump's racist!" "People who don't like Hillary are sexist!" etc.

[Deleted]

Why wouldn't it be? The DNC hasn't been held yet. It will be held on July 25th through 28th, and until then Bernie Sanders isn't going anywhere.

Bernie is lone gone. Stop hoping, you are only deluding him and yourself, Hillary has won.