[TV] The Punisher

[Feredir]

It appears that Marvel and Netflix will not wait for Daredevil season 2 to air before deciding on the fate of Frank Castle. The Punisher series has allegedly entered into development. http://geektyrant.com/news/the-punis...el-and-netflix

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Any ETA on release?

[BloodyAngel12]

Any ETA on release?

Some time after Luke Cage and Ironfist is my guess

[Feredir]

Since its in the development phase I wouldn't expect it before 2017.

[Deleted]

It appears that Marvel and Netflix will not wait for Daredevil season 2 to air before deciding on the fate of Frank Castle. The Punisher series has allegedly entered into development. http://geektyrant.com/news/the-punis...el-and-netflix

Let's hope both Daredevil and Jessica Jones do not get a second season, both were written and acted so bad.

[Wilderness]

Let's hope both Daredevil and Jessica Jones do not get a second season, both were written and acted so bad.

Well, I think you're in the minority on both of those. DD Season 2 comes out in March and JJ was rather well received - its certain to get another season.

OT: I'm very interested to see the Punisher in DD this season. I think the guy playing him fits the part well. DD, JJ, and what we've seen of Luke Cage have all been great so they can keep doing whatever they want on Netflix as far as I'm concerned.

[Feredir]

Let's hope both Daredevil and Jessica Jones do not get a second season, both were written and acted so bad.

You're quite a bit late to that party, so I'm thinking troll, especially since Daredevil season 2 is mentioned in the opening sentence.

[Deleted]

Well, I think you're in the minority on both of those. DD Season 2 comes out in March and JJ was rather well received - its certain to get another season.

OT: I'm very interested to see the Punisher in DD this season. I think the guy playing him fits the part well. DD, JJ, and what we've seen of Luke Cage have all been great so they can keep doing whatever they want on Netflix as far as I'm concerned.

The only reason JJ was well received was people seem to have a boner for the girl...the plot was so bad, JJ literally had 4 chances to kill the bad guy without hurting anyone else and she didn't.

[Zoaric]

Let's hope both Daredevil and Jessica Jones do not get a second season, both were written and acted so bad.

Jessica Jones is getting a second season. It was confirmed today.

[Sorshen]

Netflix is thisclose to pulling the trigger on The Punisher, a new Marvel spinoff series centered on Jon Bernthal’s gun-toting Daredevil vigilante (aka Frank Castle), TVLine has learned exclusively.

2016 journalism, still so clickbait-y. Basically, a rumor.

[Feredir]

2016 journalism, still so clickbait-y. Basically, a rumor.

Then instead I offer the story from Variety magazine http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/the-...es-1201681525/

[Mister K]

Let's hope both Daredevil and Jessica Jones do not get a second season, both were written and acted so bad.

What on Earth? DD Season 1 was marvellous, the cinematography at least. Considering that maybe Gotham is pretty strong when it comes to acting everything else on TV is... just normal/average.

Currently watching DD again and damn, Ep2 end fight scene is still amazing.

[jimboa24]

Let's hope both Daredevil and Jessica Jones do not get a second season, both were written and acted so bad.

First of all, obvious troll is obvious. Secondly, Daredevil season 2 is already done and will be released next month, and I'm sure you already know it. Its main theme will be Punisher versus Daredevil. Thirdly, Daredevil and Jessica Jones were great; DD was better than JJ imo, but the acting and writing was great.

As to why JJ didn't immediately kill Killgrave, you obviously weren't paying attention to what the fuck was going on. She wasn't trying to kill him, she was trying to expose him (and more specifically, the fact that he had the ability to mind control people) so the girl who he made kill her parents would be exonerated. Killing him would ensure she would be in prison for the rest of her life - the entire thing driving her was the desire to save an innocent as best as she could, and in doing so, feel some redemption for her own past with Killgrave.

But like I said....obvious troll is obvious.

The Punisher is my favorite Marvel character, and the thing I like best about him is how much all the other Marvel heroes absolutely despise him, especially Daredevil. The Punisher is basically Batman, if Batman had no problem killing, and instead of being rich was a military man. I can't wait to see Jon Bernthal's take on the character.

[eschatological]

Is the idea that DD will spend all season fighting Punisher, then capitulate to the idea that he's sort of an anti-hero - and that leads into the Punisher series?

[Feredir]

Is the idea that DD will spend all season fighting Punisher, then capitulate to the idea that he's sort of an anti-hero - and that leads into the Punisher series?

Pretty much DD and Punisher will go head to head after discovering that Frank Castle has been killing mobsters. They will never see eye to eye, though I'm curious how Elektra will play out in this series.

[jimboa24]

Is the idea that DD will spend all season fighting Punisher, then capitulate to the idea that he's sort of an anti-hero - and that leads into the Punisher series?

I don't know how exactly the season will shape out, but Matt's conflict with Frank will absolutely be the central theme. Daredevil and Punisher actually have a very, very long history together in the comics as each others biggest rivals. In fact, as far as I know, Daredevil and Punisher's history with each other is even longer and more complicated than Matt's histories with Elektra and Bullseye. DD and Punisher absolutely hate each other. Frank sees Matt as a naive fool who (because he never kills) is essentially just a bandaid solution to crime. Matt sees Frank as a twisted mockery of justice, and has a special kind of hate for the Punisher because he often has to save the lives of criminals from Frank, which makes him feel dirty. They will never, ever see eye to eye on anything, and the few times that they actually have teamed up against a greater foe are always awkward, tense, and short lived, usually ending with one of them turning on the other.

So, considering Punisher is getting his own series, I really am curious to see where he and Matt end up at the end of season 2. Cause I find a truce between them to be extremely unlikely.

[eschatological]

I don't know how exactly the season will shape out, but Matt's conflict with Frank will absolutely be the central theme. Daredevil and Punisher actually have a very, very long history together in the comics as each others biggest rivals. In fact, as far as I know, Daredevil and Punisher's history with each other is even longer and more complicated than Matt's histories with Elektra and Bullseye. DD and Punisher absolutely hate each other. Frank sees Matt as a naive fool who (because he never kills) is essentially just a bandaid solution to crime. Matt sees Frank as a twisted mockery of justice, and has a special kind of hate for the Punisher because he often has to save the lives of criminals from Frank, which makes him feel dirty. They will never, ever see eye to eye on anything, and the few times that they actually have teamed up against a greater foe are always awkward, tense, and short lived, usually ending with one of them turning on the other.

So, considering Punisher is getting his own series, I really am curious to see where he and Matt end up at the end of season 2. Cause I find a truce between them to be extremely unlikely.

This was my understanding too, and why I was confused as to how Punisher is the main antagonistic force in DD season 2, if we all just know he's going into his own series with...what? A truce? A potentially unresolved storyline?

[jimboa24]

This was my understanding too, and why I was confused as to how Punisher is the main antagonistic force in DD season 2, if we all just know he's going into his own series with...what? A truce? A potentially unresolved storyline?

Maybe he ends up in prison and breaks out. There have been many comics about the Punisher ending up in prison, and killing every murderer, rapist, gang member, etc that he can get his hands on before he eventually busts out.

Kind of like in Watchmen when Rorschach killed that guy in the kitchen and said "I'm not locked up in here with you - you're all locked in here with me!" The Punisher ending up in prison, now that I think about it, is probably the most likely outcome of DD season 2 and a decent place to pick things up for a Punisher series.

[Svifnymr]

This was my understanding too, and why I was confused as to how Punisher is the main antagonistic force in DD season 2, if we all just know he's going into his own series with...what? A truce? A potentially unresolved storyline?

I think my main issue is that Punisher on his own would be pretty "normal", it really needs the "hero that won't kill" element for him to play off of IMO. So I don't really want a Punisher series, more like keep him in the Daredevil world.

Same with JJ, I don't really want a season 2, I'd rather see her in Luke Cage, then both of them in Iron Fist and move them all into a series rather than trying to maintain 5 series between Daredevil/ Punisher/ Jessica Jones/ Luke Cage/ Iron Fist and whoever else is popular. JJ really didn't share Hells Kitchen with DD, so I can see bumping them to their own place.

[jimboa24]

I think my main issue is that Punisher on his own would be pretty "normal", it really needs the "hero that won't kill" element for him to play off of IMO. So I don't really want a Punisher series, more like keep him in the Daredevil world.

Same with JJ, I don't really want a season 2, I'd rather see her in Luke Cage, then both of them in Iron Fist and move them all into a series rather than trying to maintain 5 series between Daredevil/ Punisher/ Jessica Jones/ Luke Cage/ Iron Fist and whoever else is popular. JJ really didn't share Hells Kitchen with DD, so I can see bumping them to their own place.

The Punisher on his own could easily work. Just have him go up against one or more "powered" foes. That's what's always made me love the Punisher - he often goes toe to toe against supervillains and he comes out on top because they always underestimate him as just a psycho with guns. He's a lot more cunning and calculating than that. Like I said, he's basically Batman, if Batman weren't rich, had no problem with killing, and had a military background. In one recent comic (2013-ish), the Avengers decided to bring Punisher in, after a woman he was working with got caught and sentenced to death. They at first didn't think the Punisher was worth their time, that he was minor leagues, and set up a trap using the woman (Rachel Cole-Alves) as bait. Punisher not only managed to free her, but hold off the Avengers using non-lethal ordinance long enough for her to escape. He proved to the Avengers that he wasn't anyone to toy with.

There was another comic where the whole thing was a bunch of casefiles put together by Nick Fury for the purpose of determining who would be suitable for a mission into Latveria (Dr. Doom's dictatorship). He obviously determined that Punisher wasn't a good team member, but he specifically noted how dangerous Punisher is for someone who doesn't have powers. His conclusion was that as a backup plan, he could drop off Punisher on one end of Latveria, and the Hulk on the other, and see who gets to the middle first.