Anyone else hopeful that Trump wins. I just want to see the shi* storm that follows.

[Vanyali]

See, that's where you're wrong. EO's have been expanded in their range of usage from previous presidents BECAUSE there's no one to stop it. They've virtually ascended checks and balances and it's become a hugely hot button topic in politics. So, no there isn't anyone to effectively "Smack down" the policies formally, which is what makes them so dangerous. Sure there can be disagreement from the public and congress, but they really have no power in the matter besides voicing their opinion. I have personally done extensive research and polling regarding the public's influence on president, specifically Obama, and he really only goes with the public when it aligns with his personal beliefs. If he has a policy that no one else believes it, it's tough shit for everyone else. And this CAN happen with a trump presidency

Congress can override them.

You'd think, with a repub majority, they could override anything they'd consider too far... but they don't.

It can also be struck down by the courts.. and they aren't.

Larger policies also require approval to go through from the judicial branch.


It's far from "yeah, the president says and so be it!". That people aren't using the balances provided either means that they're not actually something they care about or they're not unconstitutional.

[Gorsameth]

I think it may be Ted Brown. And possible Rubio. But the best combination in my opinion would be Rubio and Carson. While I disagree with Carson on some issues, I do think his composure would work well as a VP.

Being asleep makes for a good VP?

[BuckSparkles]

Being asleep makes for a good VP?

Dude is a neurosurgeon. He doesn't need to yell. I kind of like his soft spoken attitude.

[Phookah]

Trump isn't going to win, I highly doubt he'll even get the nomination. Democrats hate him, Independents hate him, most of the rest of the republican party hates him.
He has zero cross-over appeal. The only ones voting for him are the diehards that are going to vote for him regardless of everything. (which prior to what he'd want you to believe, isn't that much).

[BuckSparkles]

Trump isn't going to win, I highly doubt he'll even get the nomination. Democrats hate him, Independents hate him, most of the rest of the republican party hates him.
He has zero cross-over appeal. The only ones voting for him are the diehards that are going to vote for him regardless of everything. (which prior to what he'd want you to believe, isn't that much).

This isn't as true as you may think.

[Vellus]

Congress can override them.

You'd think, with a repub majority, they could override anything they'd consider too far... but they don't.

It can also be struck down by the courts.. and they aren't.

Larger policies also require approval to go through from the judicial branch.


It's far from "yeah, the president says and so be it!". That people aren't using the balances provided either means that they're not actually something they care about or they're not unconstitutional.

Congress can't override executive orders, they can override a presidential veto if the policy is brought to congress first. Congress can place policy to modify an executive order that is implemented as domestic legislation, but the president can veto that. Unless there is overwhelming majority (2/3rds) then nothing can be done. And it's exceptionally unlikely for that to even happen.

The supreme court cannot override executive orders unless they are unconstitutional, and they never are.

So at the moment, it is "The president says and so be it", it's just within the hands of a calculated and intelligent cabinet to structure another democratic administration without too much aggressive social change

[Crillam]

If he win we will finally get to see america being "great" again, cant wait, the hype is unreal!
Jokes aside... RIP America.

[Xargoth6634]

What would be special with him winning?

Well, him. He's pretty "special," if you catch my drift.

[Vanyali]

Congress can't override executive orders, they can override a presidential veto if the policy is brought to congress first. Congress can place policy to modify an executive order that is implemented as domestic legislation, but the president can veto that. Unless there is overwhelming majority (2/3rds) then nothing can be done. And it's exceptionally unlikely for that to even happen.

The supreme court cannot override executive orders unless they are unconstitutional, and they never are.

So at the moment, it is "The president says and so be it", it's just within the hands of a calculated and intelligent cabinet to structure another democratic administration without too much aggressive social change

Truman would like to have a word with the bold.

And yes, they can; creating new legislation that specifically designs things with their intent would make the EO no longer apply. that they'd have to veto is taken for granted, but saying that "they can't do anything!" because they'd require a majority is really dishonest. The other option would be allowing them to just strike down EOs at a whim, which would make the former absolutely pointless.

[Katie N]

Well, him. He's pretty "special," if you catch my drift.

What is special about him then?

[Gorsameth]

Dude is a neurosurgeon. He doesn't need to yell. I kind of like his soft spoken attitude.

And i'm sure he is a great surgeon but every time he opens his mouth and talks about something else he makes a fool of himself.

[apepi]

That may happen. I think Clinton has been going downhill for awhile.

She was never even up hill. She only had more names because of name recognition, not because people actually like her or her policies.

[Manhands]

Every election year, I'm reminded of the first time I learned that some people just don't give a fuck. And that they aren't a small group. And that they can really screw up democratic process.

In middle school, we wanted to change our mascot. We were the "Springfield Indians", and that suddenly offended enough people to necessitate changing everything. Oh, and the Principal soon after ran for public office (city council, I believe), which I'm sure was a huge part. He lost, in case you're interested.

Anyway, I digress. To change the name of the school, someone had the bright idea to let the students vote. "Democracy, fuck yeah!" Each grade was divided into sections and each section provided a name. The "special needs" section of students proffered the name "Locomotives". Can you imagine the "Springfield Locomotives"? I don't even know what that means. But any school we played in sports would know what it meant: it meant it was open season to mock us mercilessly.

I remember seeing the option of Locomotives and laughing to myself. I voted for something like "Warriors" because it was the best of the bad options. Speaking of bad options, check these out http://www.11points.com/Sports/11_Mi...School_Mascots.

The results of the first ballot came back, and the winner was..."Loco-fucking-motives". I shit you not. "Locomotives" actually won. So you know what the school administrators did? They scrapped that vote. They realized that almost the entirety of the 8th grade (the highest grade level at the school) voted for "Locomotives" because they were at the high school the next year and didn't give a fuck. So for the next vote, 8th graders were banned. (They were also verbally reprimanded during a school assembly, which was fucking insulting to the special needs kids who came up with the name in the first place.) "Warriors" won the second vote, and they hold that name today.

If Trump wins, I sure hope the electoral college takes the same stance as the school administrators.

[Tijuana]

I just want him to televise his presidency. I think he is a dbag but, I don't see how a socialist or the most hated person in America can win. I don't think anyone he knows the name of that other Democrat running.

[Cthulhu 2020]

You think congress would agree to go to war?

Look what happened in 2001.

In b4 butthurt about blaming something on Bush that Bush did.

[BuckSparkles]

Look what happened in 2001.

In b4 butthurt about blaming something on Bush that Bush did.

Psst, everybody voted to go to war. It was not just those evil mean republicans...

[Ghostpanther]

Psst, everybody voted to go to war. It was not just those evil mean republicans...

And the majority of Americans at the time ( according to a poll ) approved of it. I was not one of them however.

[Kioshi]

Hope he does, the united state need another civil war to get rid of the rest of these racist people.

[Independent voter]

Yeah, I kind of would like to see what happens. I bet he wouldn't be as bad as people think.

[schwarzkopf]

Here is the one major reason I don't want an insane idiot like Trump as president, even for kicks: