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    Why Is Compromise A Bad Word In Politics?

    (Disclaimer, this may apply more to the U.S as I am a U.S citizen and my perspective on this is U.S)

    Compromise:

    A settlement of differences by mutual concessions; an agreement reached by adjustment of conflicting or opposing claims, principles, etc., by reciprocal modification of demands.
    Why is this word a bad word in politics? To me its because they use the other definition

    An endangering, especially of reputation; exposure to danger, suspicion, etc.:
    a compromise of one's integrity.
    But compromise is what we should want out of our politicians. They should be willing to discuss, but i don't blame our politicians. I blame the voters. I believe we are too obsessed over the idea of compromising ourselves, that we are unable to reach compromise.

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    Because if you want left-wing politics, them settling for something inbetween right and left-wing with the right-wing parties is no-go.

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    Because people decided to stop focusing on governing and start focusing on winning.

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    Because the part where politicians are complaining about no compromises is preceded by politicians calling the other party a blight on humanity. It looks tone deaf.

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    Because we can't compromise on everything, some things we can, but others we simply can't, at some point there has to be a clear distinction between who is right and wrong on a issue and that is not always easy or going to make everybody always feel good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    Because people decided to stop focusing on governing and start focusing on winning.
    winning of course is fill their pockets with cash and power.

    Looking at the "freedom caucus" in the house, yes compromise with anything from obama is toxic.

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    It's not its good.

    If there was more give and take things would get done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    winning of course is fill their pockets with cash and power.

    Looking at the "freedom caucus" in the house, yes compromise with anything from obama is toxic.
    I was going more for the people that vote them in.

    A lot of people see politics as sports - you don't compromise, because that means you're a loser. You get your way and win, or everything else can burn.

    That politicians benefit from that is only a happy and profitable coincidence for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    I was going more for the people that vote them in.

    A lot of people see politics as sports - you don't compromise, because that means you're a loser. You get your way and win, or everything else can burn.

    That politicians benefit from that is only a happy and profitable coincidence for them.
    Well, if I vote for a left-wing party and they're the government, I don't want a centrist policy or right-wing policy because they had to comrpomise with right-wing parties. ._.

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    Sometimes compromise waters down the original intent so much that the policy becomes pointless.

    Compromise can be seen as a weakening of your stance on a position, but it depends entirely on what is being discussed, so it's virtually impossible to give an answer to your question unless you give numerous examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Sometimes compromise waters down the original intent so much that the policy becomes pointless.

    Compromise can be seen as a weakening of your stance on a position, but it depends entirely on what is being discussed, so it's virtually impossible to give an answer to your question unless you give numerous examples.
    I guess we can compromise and allow multiple answers as it reaches my goal of discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blomster View Post
    Well, if I vote for a left-wing party and they're the government, I don't want a centrist policy or right-wing policy because they had to comrpomise with right-wing parties. ._.
    welcome to swedish politics <.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade Wolf View Post
    welcome to swedish politics <.<
    Yeah, it's almost useless voting because you don't get the policies you voted for them for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blomster View Post
    Well, if I vote for a left-wing party and they're the government, I don't want a centrist policy or right-wing policy because they had to comrpomise with right-wing parties. ._.
    Because government isn't a process of individuals, and getting exactly what you voted for would mean you stepped over anyone not voting the exact same as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    Because government isn't a process of individuals, and getting exactly what you voted for would mean you stepped over anyone not voting the exact same as you.
    Well, we've not had many minority governments, so there's not been much compromising but now the left-wing is just compromosing all the time and abandoning their policies. The social democrats are at a record low now, partially because of this. People who vote for the social democrats don't want the moderate parties policies, that's why they voted for the social democrats instead of the moderate party. >.<

    The moderate party being a conservative party means like, everyone voting left-wing doesn't want their policies. Works to some extent with the centre party and the liberals, but the christian democrats and moderate party are like, conservative parties that are pretty contrary to the social democrats policies. :l
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanyali View Post
    Because government isn't a process of individuals, and getting exactly what you voted for would mean you stepped over anyone not voting the exact same as you.
    Except certain key things, like gay rights. Those were a constant with us or against us war.

    This is not a post against gay marriage. This is about how anyone that wasn't voting for people championing gay marriage were surppressing them.

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    I think it boils down to the belief that the best solutions are reached when both sides fight/argue until only one is left standing.

    Also, I think 'compromised' in military jargon usually means that something really bad has happened and so it may be frowned upon by association.

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    Because with compromise you end up with policies like Don't Ask, Don't Tell and the ACA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dextroden View Post
    Except certain key things, like gay rights. Those were a constant with us or against us war.

    This is not a post against gay marriage. This is about how anyone that wasn't voting for people championing gay marriage were surppressing them.
    There are, admittedly, some situations where compromise isn't possible, and in an ideal world neither party stands for denying a group rights.

    Because that is why it was a with us or against us war; there was no compromise that gave them the same rights as everyone else while denying them those same rights that didn't violate the law (separate but equal is not a valid compromise, and was the only thing that was offered).

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    Politics has certainly turned into an us vs them game much more than it was in the past. I think there are several factors which have gotten us to this point.

    For one, the internet and specifically social apps. You need only look to the internet on any subject or in any form to see what happens when you open up communication channels between people of greatly differing opinions. In utopia, this effect would result in both sides coming to the middle and understanding each other. In reality, human nature appears to favor digging ones heels in and fighting for your own opinion. We are of a very stubborn nature. Intellect doesn't even seem to subside this. The more we learn, the smarter we may be, gives us less room to respect dissenting opinions of ours because we find our opinions intellectually superior.

    A similar scenario comparable to politics these days are relationships. Everyone is told they are powerful, that everything they want is everything they should get. Women are told if their man isn't their prince charming, to dump him. Men are told they should expect a woman in the streets but a freak in the sheets, who cooks and cleans. Very little of the conversation bombarded at us these days says, "hey, your standards are too high, compromise".

    Politics is following suit with society. It is the face of our worst sides. There has never been a communication channel like the internet we have today to get so many opinions heard by so many. The minority, is usually the most vocal, and everyone else just comes along for the ride.
    Last edited by Narwal; 2016-01-29 at 07:58 PM.

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