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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfootbigd View Post
    Excluding Hillary Clinton and Bill's affair, couldn't he be considered a solid president for both parties alike? I'm assuming he's been brought up recently to retaliate against Hillary.
    Besides the carnage and death that follows him when he seeks to distract from sex scandals?

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    He said clintons. He didn't single out bill "according to you"

    Misleading title is misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    Proof will do wonders here.
    Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;
    In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name;
    In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;
    Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;
    From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;
    Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."
    Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.
    Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.
    Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.
    Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.
    Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    The Clinton Fundraising are used for anything but themselves. Do you have any idea how much bill Clinton makes just by giving a speech?
    Oh really? You think because the Clintons can make money they are then suddenly incapable of telling lies and running a scam? Hate to break it to you but their fundraising has been criticized many times and for good reason.
    Charity watchdog: Clinton Foundation a ‘slush fund’

    Charity Navigator put the foundation on its “watch list,” which warns potential donors about investing in problematic charities. The 23 charities on the list include the Rev. Al Sharpton’s troubled National Action Network, which is cited for failing to pay payroll taxes for several years.

    Other nonprofit experts are asking hard questions about the Clinton Foundation’s tax filings in the wake of recent reports that the Clintons traded influence for donations.

    It seems like the Clinton Foundation operates as a slush fund for the Clintons,” said Bill Allison, a senior fellow at the Sunlight Foundation, a government watchdog group where progressive Democrat and Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout was once an organizing director.

    In July 2013, Eric Braverman, a friend of Chelsea Clinton from when they both worked at McKinsey & Co., took over as CEO of the Clinton Foundation. He took home nearly $275,000 in salary, benefits and a housing allowance from the nonprofit for just five months’ work in 2013, tax filings show. Less than a year later, his salary increased to $395,000, according to a report in Politico.

    Braverman abruptly left the foundation earlier this year, after a falling-out with the old Clinton guard over reforms he wanted to impose at the charity, Politico reported. Last month, Donna Shalala, a former secretary of health and human services under President Clinton, was hired to replace Braverman.

    Nine other executives received salaries over $100,000 in 2013, tax filings show.

    The nonprofit came under fire last week following reports that Hillary Clinton, while she was secretary of state, signed off on a deal that allowed a Russian government enterprise to control one-fifth of all uranium producing capacity in the United States. Rosatom, the Russian company, acquired a Canadian firm controlled by Frank Giustra, a friend of Bill Clinton’s and member of the foundation board, who has pledged over $130 million to the Clinton family charity.

    The group also failed to disclose millions of dollars it received in foreign donations from 2010 to 2012 and is hurriedly refiling five years’ worth of tax returns after reporters raised questions about the discrepancies in its filings last week.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-clin...ase-1438731092
    The first couple of American liberalism reported income of $139 million in their hardship years from 2007-2014. That’s a tad more than most of the “everyday Americans” whom Mrs. Clinton claims to speak for, which may explain why an accompanying press release stressed that she and Bill had given $14,959,450 to charity.

    That’s wonderful, save for the small detail that her charity of choice was her own family. The couple donated all but $200,000 of their gifts since 2007 to the Clinton Family Foundation, which isn’t exactly the Little Sisters of the Poor.

    While the foundation does contribute to charitable causes, it also doubles as a vehicle to promote the first family’s political ambitions and public profile. It spends an outsized portion of its money, for instance, picking up the travel and other expenses for the whole family.

    The foundation has also functioned between campaigns and stints in public office as a jobs program and financier for various Clinton operatives. Sidney Blumenthal, who was banned by the White House from a job at the State Department, was paid by the foundation while he was dispensing bad advice on Libya to Mrs. Clinton. Foreign governments, unions, wealthy Democrats and corporations donated to the foundation knowing its political importance to the woman who could be the next U.S. President.

    The Clintons play by their own political rules, and taking a nearly $15 million tax write-off to assist their electoral ambitions is merely the latest.
    TLDR: They use their charity to dodge taxes, pay for their expenses, and hand out reward payments to political allies and friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    Who would have thought that bin laden will do the 9/11 stunt? Even George W. Bush had no idea who bin laden was. At least Bill Clinton himself left a memo to George W. that Bin Laden should be dealt with and was ignored by Bush administration.
    So much stupidity. You do know that sometime between 1988-1989 he was also a founder of al-Qaeda right? Probably not, but not really surprised. Also, his involvement in the 1998 US embassy bombings in East Africa which killed dover 200 people had placed him on the FBI's top 10 most wanted list. In addition to this, he was also responsible for signing and issuing fatwas in 1998 calling on Muslims to kill Americans and their allies where they can, when they can.

    Sorry, but I am pretty sure that GWB knew who he was. Oh, WGB got a memo huh? Well that makes things just ok then.......a fucking memo? Oh please....and don't try and pass off the idiotic notion that Bush wasn't trying to capture/kill Bin Laden either.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    Real terrorism started in 2001. and sorry that he tried to cut military cost for some decent education and health care.
    "Real Terrorism" didn't start until 2001? What the hell is this crap. Man, I thought I seen it all but this really takes the cake when it comes to people on MMO-champ making completely idiotic and inaccurate statements. Hate to break it to you but "real terrorism" has been around for a lot longer than 2001. Please seek real education asap. You need it.

    As for your claim that any money saved was for decent health care and education..........I guess that's why education has been going down the drain as evidence provided by you here for a long time now. As for healthcare, I guess since the system was so awesome the drive from democrats to ram through obamacare almost a decade later to "fix" the healthcare system was totally unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    these days it's so easy to spot a republican from miles away.
    " he is a serial sex offender.":
    serial: comparing it to serial killing does not make the event more dramatic.
    Sex Offender: Not sex offender. Maybe an adulterer. Although getting a blowjob from a strange woman is not considered adultery IMHO. There was no sex involved.
    Holy shit. "Serial" isn't a word that is exclusive to killers.... wtf?

    And sorry, but you don't need vaginal penetration to be considered an adulterer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    Holy shit. "Serial" isn't a word that is exclusive to killers.... wtf?
    And sorry, but you don't need vaginal penetration to be considered an adulterer.
    You be quiet, you bastard, relationships sound a lot better when I can blow jobs from other women without committing adultery.
    Quote Originally Posted by Axelhander View Post
    Thank you for mansplaining how opinions work.
    Also you're wrong, the people who agree with you are wrong, and you're probably ugly.
    Ever been so angry at everyone on the internet you tell a woman she is mansplaining?

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    15 Ways that Bill Clinton Failed
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    The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 took a page directly from Republican Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich’s Contract with America. In an atmosphere steeped in decades of conservative scaremongering around the specter of sexually reckless “welfare queens,” Clinton’s 1992 campaign promise to “end welfare as we know it” played directly to white voters' fears of black crime and poverty. Twenty years after scrapping the longstanding Aid to Families with Dependent Children in favor of the right wing’s underfunded and more punitive vision, the number of poor American children has exploded and black welfare recipients are subject to the system’s most stringent rules.
    In 2012, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities found that while “in 1996, for every 100 families with children living in poverty, TANF [Temporary Assistance for Needy Families] provided cash aid to 68 families,” that number plunged to 27 out of every 100 families living in poverty by 2010. Conservatives trumpet these numbers, often citing the fact that nationally, TANF enrollment fell 58 percent between 1995-2010. But they neglect to mention that the number of poor families with children rose 17 percent in the same period.
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    Wall Street’s Deregulator-in-Chief. As president, Clinton outdid the GOP when it came to unleashing Wall Street’s worst instincts, by supporting and signing into law more financial deregulation legislation than any other president, according to the Columbia Journalism Review.
    He didn’t just push the Democrats controlling the House to pass a bill (Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act) that dissolved the Depression-era Glass-Steagall law, which barred investment banks from commercial banking activities. He deregulated the risky derivatives market (Commodity Futures Modernization Act), gutted state regulation of banks (Riegle-Neal) leading to a wave of banking mergers, and reappointed Alan Greenspan as Federal Reserve chair. In recent years, Clinton has ludicrously claimed that the GOP forced him to do this, which led in no small part to the global financial crisis of 2008 and the too-big-to-fail ethos, with the federal government obligated to bail out multinational banks while doing little for individual account holders.
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    Gutted manufacturing via trade agreements. Bill Clinton helped gut America’s manufacturing base by promoting and passing the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, in 1993, when Democrats controlled Congress. That especially resonates today, when another Democratic president, Barack Obama, and Republicans in Congress, are allied against labor unions and liberal Democrats to pass its like-minded descendant, the Trans Pacific Partnership. “NAFTA signaled that the Democratic Party—the “progressive” side of the U.S. two-party system—had accepted the reactionary economic ideology of Ronald Reagan,” wrote Jeff Faux, on the Economic Policy Institute Working Economics Blog.
    The World Trade Organization, World Bank, International Monetary Fund all applied NAFTA's principles, which gave corporations the power to challenge local laws protecting health and safety if they cut into profits—like labeling tobacco packaging. The NAFTA “doctrine of socialism for capital and free markets for labor” could also be seen in the way the U.S. government “organized the rescue of the world’s banks and corporate investors and let workers fend for themselves” in the Mexican peso crisis of 1994-'95, the Asian financial crash of 1997, and the global financial meltdown of 2008.
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    No LGBT equality: Defense of Marriage Act. The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was one of conservatives' biggest victories in the 1990s. Passed by Congress and signed into law by Clinton in 1996, the bill defined spouse as "heterosexual" and deprived legally wed same-sex couples of many significant benefits, from Social Security benefits to hospital visitation rights. It allowed states to refuse legal recognition of couples married in other states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    Holy shit. "Serial" isn't a word that is exclusive to killers.... wtf?

    And sorry, but you don't need vaginal penetration to be considered an adulterer.
    Omg that is all I got from that wall of text to haha, the serial part
    You're a towel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mysterymask View Post
    I believe George Washington is probably the only president to not get any criticism in today's socity
    He was a slave owner. Tee hee, just saying.
    В предчувствии движения племен,
    Разломов тверди и кончины мира
    Пою не то, о чем мечтает лира,
    А имена теней и тень имен.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shnider View Post
    these days it's so easy to spot a republican from miles away.
    " he is a serial sex offender.":
    serial: comparing it to serial killing does not make the event more dramatic.
    The word "serial" just refers to doing something as a series, a repeated activity. No one compared it to serial killing. You made that connection up.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by bigfootbigd View Post
    Tim Allen, the actor from Home Improvement, said The Clintons 'are like Herpes'.


    Excluding Hillary Clinton and Bill's affair, couldn't he be considered a solid president for both parties alike? I'm assuming he's been brought up recently to retaliate against Hillary.
    He built a weak infrastructure to project a fake ecomonic boom.
    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigzoman View Post
    Meant Wetback. That's what the guy from Home Depot called it anyway.
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    Because he's a smarmy corporatist? He was great Republican president, though.

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