Would you consider yourself libertarian or socialist?

[Doctor Amadeus]

I'm NOT Libertarian by any means and only socialist on a handful. So neither!

[Kellhound]

I am a composite centralist. The party I closest agree with is the Bull Moose party.

[Alydael]

Libertarian. Tell the government to butt out of our business!

[Lady Dragonheart]

A good bit of both, it would seem.

[Deleted]

Libertarian.. VERY anti-left.

I believe in personal freedom, to hell with the rest.

[Drekker17]

I lean libertarian

[Shadowferal]

Mostly because big business isn't all that friendly to the common man.

They love that "bottom line" too much.

[Deleted]

Mostly because big business isn't all that friendly to the common man.

Its kinda about can vs can not though. Big businesses who abuse the system to get an advantage.. not ok. Focusing on personal gain and elitism, perfectly acceptable.

[Doctor Amadeus]

Its kinda about can vs can not though. Big businesses who abuse the system to get an advantage.. not ok. Focusing on personal gain and elitism, perfectly acceptable.

Nah, it is delusional bullshit, it is a bunch of worthless people that didn't work and earn it, patting themselves on the back for getting away with what most people would go to fucking prison for.

[Shadowferal]

Hmm...a business that dumps cancerous material in water would cite "freedom" and "liberty" as the reasons to do so.

[Healing Rain]

Libertarian.

Socialism is basically, "I want the government to steal money from other people to help you because I will not help you." So impersonal and regressive.

[Shadowferal]

Libertarian.

Socialism is basically, "I want the government to steal money from other people to help you because I will not help you." So impersonal and regressive.

Government can change.
Big business...not so much.

Worse when government is bought and paid for to enable big business stomp all over Joe Average, and then forces him to pay for their bailout.

[Deleted]

Nah, it is delusional bullshit, it is a bunch of worthless people that didn't work and earn it, patting themselves on the back for getting away with what most people would go to fucking prison for.

Its not.. and Im aware its.. you. But just for kicks:P I believe the world essentially should be about trade. Fair trade. If you dont got anything to trade for the things you want, then youre worthless. No one should do anything for you. If you think something is too expensive then dont buy it or negotiate. However if you have the goods or service people line up for with "please take my money!!", then its fully consensual and your part in the transaction is done! You owe them nothing! Everything else is meaningless because you can just imagine what would happen if you took them out of the equation. Say you took out Coca-Cola.. or some artist people like. What would change? Would their lives get better? I dont think so.

If someone willingly gives you their money in exchange of what you offer, no matter how worthless you think it is, then its your problem, not the corporations and goes against the very principles of free will and democracy.

[Shadowferal]

Its not.. and Im aware its.. you. But just for kicks:P I believe the world essentially should be about trade. Fair trade. If you dont got anything to trade for the things you want, then youre worthless. No one should do anything for you. If you think something is too expensive then dont buy it or negotiate. However if you have the goods or service people line up for with "please take my money!!", then its fully consensual and your part in the transaction is done! You owe them nothing! Everything else is meaningless because you can just imagine what would happen if you took them out of the equation. Say you took out Coca-Cola.. or some artist people like. What would change? Would their lives get better? I dont think so.

If someone willingly gives you their money in exchange of what you offer, no matter how worthless you think it is, then its your problem, not the corporations and goes against the very principles of free will and democracy.

omg..."Fair Trade?" How would you imagine that gets enforced? Big business has always been against that idea...

Sweet jesus...

[Deleted]

Authoritarian.

[Packing an i5]

I'm a democratic libertarian. I lean left but I like hard money policies, low taxes, personal freedoms.

[Deleted]

omg..."Fair Trade?" How would you imagine that gets enforced? Big business has always been against that idea...

Sweet jesus...

Sadly yea.. but its kinda a moral issue. Some big businesses are bad.. but you cant clump them all together, add small businesses and punish them all with unfair taxes and responsibilities as in the end, I think every private citizen is only responsible for their own personal well being and responsibilities they take or cause through their actions (such as having children)

[Super Kami Dende]

I pretty centrist. Right-wing people call me Left-wing, Left-wing people call me Right-wing. Libs call me Auth, Auths call me Lib, It is a hard life when you are actually capable of seeing the pro and cons of all sides instead of just going full spastic or full retard (guess which Far-side is which).

[Doctor Amadeus]

Its not.. and Im aware its.. you. But just for kicks:P I believe the world essentially should be about trade. Fair trade. If you dont got anything to trade for the things you want, then youre worthless. No one should do anything for you. If you think something is too expensive then dont buy it or negotiate. However if you have the goods or service people line up for with "please take my money!!", then its fully consensual and your part in the transaction is done! You owe them nothing! Everything else is meaningless because you can just imagine what would happen if you took them out of the equation. Say you took out Coca-Cola.. or some artist people like. What would change? Would their lives get better? I dont think so.

If someone willingly gives you their money in exchange of what you offer, no matter how worthless you think it is, then its your problem, not the corporations and goes against the very principles of free will and democracy.

Yeah, well then you suffer from that same delusions as most conservatives and libertarians corporations and business don't live in some kind of bubble where what they do only effects their consumers, nor are they responsible totally for their own success.

And at the end of the day Coca Cola doesn't actually produce anything of fucking value, it is perceived values based on market manipulation.

People that believe as you believe are delusional, just as those delusional about shit like global warming, because it happens to be cold outside your house.

The world is fucking poor and most people are suffering because of the unchecked greed of a few, and the only Difference between Conservatives and Libretarians is that one claims to have a moral compass most of the others don't.

[Super Kami Dende]

And at the end of the day Coca Cola doesn't actually produce anything of fucking value, it is perceived values based on market manipulation.

Except for their product, "Coca-Cola" which is sold for currency.