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    It's not mandatory here in the UK, I don't normally tip unless I feel the service was worthy of a tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De thuong View Post
    Why do some people feel the need to tip for being provided what they should when they pay for something?
    only time i think i need to tip is if i patronage a place that wants tips - if i dont want to pay tips, i dont patronage places that want tips...

    that being said, i think the laws should change to enforce employers to pay employees min wage instead of making employees hope they get tips to make min wage

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    Because of the dumb system we have where restaurant employees are somehow able to be paid far lower than minimum wage. That's the main issue alone, their minimum wage compared to others. I don't think the concept should disappear entirely, but it shouldn't be mandatory.


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    I would never tip unless it is expected, meaning either told or already be baked into the price.

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    It seems to be an American thing, Pay your waiting staff a slaves wage and hope the patrons pay the rest needed to keep them alive. Here in the UK we do tip on occasion but really you have to provide a good service as a waiter becasue we know they are getting paid fine and a tip is just like a thank you without having to use words which we are big fans of.
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    In the US, servers get paid anywhere from in the $2.50 per hour range to the lofty amount of $4.95 per hour.

    This is hardly a livable wage, much less worth anything. The vast majority of their money comes from thankful customers. This makes serving a truly demanding industry in America.

    I spent time in Wales and England last August and the only two places that even had a gratuity line, two hotel restaurants, had the worst service! It was kind of hilarious, but also a damned shame. I don't think my family has ever felt so strongly about not tipping someone before... If someone asks for drinks, don't bring them 15 minutes after the food arrives. What the hell? =|

    My best friend has spent several years in between university and med school serving, and he really strives to go above and beyond to take care of his customers. We only got comparable service a couple times I would say, and both were in Wales.
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    Courtesy. People appreciate the service at times. It's not actually mandatory in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    In the US, servers get paid anywhere from in the $2.50 per hour range to the lofty amount of $4.95 per hour.

    This is hardly a livable wage, much less worth anything. The vast majority of their money comes from thankful customers. This makes serving a truly demanding industry in America.

    I spent time in Wales and England last August and the only two places that even had a gratuity line, two hotel restaurants, had the worst service! It was kind of hilarious, but also a damned shame. I don't think my family has ever felt so strongly about not tipping someone before... If someone asks for drinks, don't bring them 15 minutes after the food arrives. What the hell? =|

    My best friend has spent several years in between university and med school serving, and he really strives to go above and beyond to take care of his customers. We only got comparable service a couple times I would say, and both were in Wales.
    must suck to live in a shitty city/area that pays that low. here in vegas you can get a service job making 14/hr+ and huge tips without a high school diploma. cya

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko Sora View Post
    And the service is terrible
    By what metric?
    I find the service in the USA really irritating and annoying. I'm glad I don't have to put up with it too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    By what metric?
    I find the service in the USA really irritating and annoying. I'm glad I don't have to put up with it too often.
    probably cause they know where you from lol. euros so cheap they get no love. at least the chinese finally starting to learn how to tip... slowly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    16 dollars tip on a 1200 dollar bill...and get killed over complaining, the poor asshole.
    I don't think the size of the tip should scale with the bill. 16 dollars tip is a good tip. And since we are in the game territory - let's talk about the entitlement. And what do we all want to do with entitled brats? Kill them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Because in some countries (that obviously aren't yours) waiters are paid so shitty that they need to live of tips?

    Also, this forums is so full of the notion of getting "rewarded" for doing things especially well in game. How about applying that to RL?

    and this


    16 dollars tip on a 1200 dollar bill...and get killed over complaining, the poor asshole.
    I don't think waiters are paid worse in the west than here. xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by De thuong View Post
    Why do some people feel the need to tip for being provided what they should when they pay for something?
    Shit wages for waiters/waitresses mainly.

    I wouldn't like going to work everyday getting paid less than minimum wage. Those that do and still do at least an average job serving me gets tipped. If a great job is done and i'm feeling plentiful with my money, 10-20 dollar tips isn't uncommon. They're doing something I can't: Performing well despite not getting compensated sufficiently for it.

    Another reason is because i'm aware of how competitive the restaurant industry is, and how their low wages givie me lower food prices. I don't like being a freeloader.

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