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    MEP wants to ban the unmentionable pick up artist from Europe.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/world...-a3185721.html

    A self-proclaimed “pick-up artist” today warned he will take legal action against the EU if it tries to ban him from coming to Europe.

    Daryush Valizadeh, who gives men advice on getting sex but is accused by critics of being “pro-rape”, made the threat after a London Labour MEP demanded Brussels ban him.

    Mary Honeyball wrote to the European Commission, claiming the US blogger, known as Roosh V, should be barred for allegedly spreading “deplorable and violent” messages about women.
    Is this a sensible measure, a reckless abuse of power or is it the political version of the below.

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    Is this the guy that wrote, in a book, that if a person is inside your house, you are free to do whatever you want to them and law doesn't apply?
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    So if the states get together and work with the Legislative Branch to write an amendment to the federal constitution, you think the Judiciary (SCOTUS) could strike it down for being 'unconstitutional'?
    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    I know some petition reached 100 000 votes so the MEP might have been under some mild obligation to raise it.
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    That's the Fonz jumping the shark, in case anyone was wondering.
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    " Is this a sensible measure, a reckless abuse of power or is it the political version of the below. "
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    I don't get it.

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    That's the Fonz jumping the shark, in case anyone was wondering.
    I think this should be edited into the OP to save a lot of confusion.
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    WskyDKs powers of clairvoyance answered the question before it was asked.

    Wasn't the petition only for the UK or was there a separate one for the EU?
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    I don't personally like the idea of banning somebody from a country based solely on what they think or what they said. However, I do realize that free speech is not interpreted or protected the same everywhere so if it's consistent with European law and values, so be it. I certainly wouldn't refer to it as a "reckless abuse of power."
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    He _is_ the guy who thinks if a woman (or a man) is in your house, you can do whatever you want to them.

    Good, ban him like the goddamn plague.
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    He has statues signaled that he is a double plus good guy with assorted progressive values and is the goodest good person since goodness was invented.

    Plus, banning people for having pro-rape views would require a lot of screening of the migrants considering events such as Cologne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Additional information requested.
    It's in a blog post here:

    http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-stop-rape

    an excerpt:

    I thought about this problem and am sure I have the solution: make rape legal if done on private property. I propose that we make the violent taking of a woman not punishable by law when done off public grounds.
    Now, He does say that the blog is satire and that he doesn't really want to legalize rape.

    What comes through pretty clearly though is he believes that if a woman enters a man's house...she has consented to have sex with him. Everything he says in the blog follows victim blaming logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Additional information requested.
    He wrote an essay, which I will not link here, in which he stated that most rapes happen to women by people they know, on private property. So obviously the way to stop rapes is to make that legal.

    Wrap it up with 'its her fault she got drunk and passed out and I just slipped and my clothes came off and my dick went inside her' and a bunch of macho alpha/beta 'women like bad boys' tripe, and you've got him pretty well figured out.

    Throw in some sexual tourism, and he gives talks on how to be a pick-up artist. I think they are still negging? I don't know, but there you go...
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    Uh...yes. Absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    He has statues signaled that he is a double plus good guy with assorted progressive values and is the goodest good person since goodness was invented.

    Plus, banning people for having pro-rape views would require a lot of screening of the migrants considering events such as Cologne.
    That would require a brain to realize the staggering irony.

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    That would require a brain to realize the staggering irony.
    No man those immigrants are good boys they just don't know rape is bad and women and young boys are people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xar226 View Post
    I don't personally like the idea of banning somebody from a country based solely on what they think or what they said. However, I do realize that free speech is not interpreted or protected the same everywhere so if it's consistent with European law and values, so be it. I certainly wouldn't refer to it as a "reckless abuse of power."
    This isn't about "free speech", it's about protecting people. Would you tolerate this guy and his followers coming to your town, specifically and intentionally trying to abuse your women? Do you want someone with his views anywhere near your friends and family? Neither do we.

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    I'm not sure if the EU as a whole even has any kind of mechanic that allows to ban people.. I mean even terror watch lists and requests for extraditions only go so far and are probably the closest thing. I'm not even sure the UK can just "lulz ban" people, even though the ridiculous internet-social media hype tries to ban every person non grata there recently (and sabotages their own influence by doing so..).

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    Can we just not go down this road?

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    Can we just not go down this road?
    It will happen.

    Ban an idiot (Roosh) for his words while the refugees flood Europe. Poetic Justice.

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    After doing some research on the topic, while this Roosh guy is certainly a dbag that nobody should take seriously it's quite obvious the "pro-rape" thing is pure hyperbole. Is he a dick for it ? yeah.

    But you have to be reaching for straws pretty desperately to actually believe he is legitimately advocating for rape to become legal.

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    I see the MEP don't have high hopes for her fellow countrymen if they can't see through this pile of garbage.

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