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    Voter turnout discrepancy between parties at primaries

    I seriously can't find anything about this online, I had to go to the news sites about individual ones. The Republican Party is absolutely crushing the democrats in turnout at the moment, and it isn't even close.

    To out it in perspective, more people voted for Ted Cruz in Nevada than Hillary Clinton, and he was nowhere near the top.

    This seems like a pretty big deal, not sure why it's not being discussed.

    I talked some of it is "democrat fatigue" because olthey are currently in office, but it can't explain the absolutely massive discrepancy in numbers.

    Like In New Hampshire, approx. 255000 republicans vs. 160000 democrats showed up. Nevada the number was just crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumboy View Post
    I seriously can't find anything about this online, I had to go to the news sites about individual ones. The Republican Party is absolutely crushing the democrats in turnout at the moment, and it isn't even close.

    To out it in perspective, more people voted for Ted Cruz in Nevada than Hillary Clinton, and he was nowhere near the top.

    This seems like a pretty big deal, not sure why it's not being discussed.

    I talked some of it is "democrat fatigue" because olthey are currently in office, but it can't explain the absolutely massive discrepancy in numbers.

    Like In New Hampshire, approx. 255000 republicans vs. 160000 democrats showed up. Nevada the number was just crazy
    My guess would be the democrats are fine with who-ever wins.
    Their a more practical bunch.
    Besides didnt they like only do the very conservative states up till now?

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    Voter suppression maybe? Probably a lot of Dems who don't really care between Hilliary and Bernie, a lot of their points have become pretty similar as of late.

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    I can't look it up atm (phone), but what shade is either of those states? Red, Blue, Purple?

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    dems always had horrible turn out, the last senate round of voting only had 40% of eligible voters actually voting and it sky rocketed for minorities. All lot of it is due to voter suppression and disenfranchised minorities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickmagnus View Post
    Voter suppression maybe? Probably a lot of Dems who don't really care between Hilliary and Bernie, a lot of their points have become pretty similar as of late.
    nothing to do with their points it has more to do is one is an admitted socialist that has communist ties and shown support for communism. hell he hung a Russian communist flag up in his office when he was a mayor, and the other is a corrupt liar under an FBI investigation with a possible indictment hanging over her head
    if I was a democrat I too would be discouraged with those being my only two choices

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    nothing to do with their points it has more to do is one is an admitted socialist that has communist ties and shown support for communism. hell he hung a Russian communist flag up in his office when he was a mayor, and the other is a corrupt liar under an FBI investigation with a possible indictment hanging over her head
    if I was a democrat I too would be discouraged with those being my only two choices
    I assure you that has literally 0 to do with it. Either of them is still miles ahead of any Republican candidate if you're already more left/center-left. Also communist ties? What is this the 1950s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumboy View Post
    I seriously can't find anything about this online, I had to go to the news sites about individual ones. The Republican Party is absolutely crushing the democrats in turnout at the moment, and it isn't even close.

    To out it in perspective, more people voted for Ted Cruz in Nevada than Hillary Clinton, and he was nowhere near the top.

    This seems like a pretty big deal, not sure why it's not being discussed.

    I talked some of it is "democrat fatigue" because olthey are currently in office, but it can't explain the absolutely massive discrepancy in numbers.

    Like In New Hampshire, approx. 255000 republicans vs. 160000 democrats showed up. Nevada the number was just crazy
    Its what happens when you have several political factions involved in a full-on internecine war. Each wants control of the republican party so they are driving each other to turn out. I.e. Trumperters are turning out to make Trump their presidential candidate, the religious nutjobs want Cruz and noone else as a means to undo a decade of social change, and moderates are turning out to stop these two crazies but are splitting their vote between several different candidates.

    Democrat turnout is lower than 2008 but still higher than prior years. 2008 was another outlier due to the crash and the utter disaster that was the Iraq war. Moreover most democrats are happy with either candidate outside of some of the younger sanders supporters, which means most don't see a reason to turnout in large numbers.

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    Where's the sources with voter turnout information?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gumboy View Post
    I seriously can't find anything about this online, I had to go to the news sites about individual ones. The Republican Party is absolutely crushing the democrats in turnout at the moment, and it isn't even close.

    To out it in perspective, more people voted for Ted Cruz in Nevada than Hillary Clinton, and he was nowhere near the top.

    This seems like a pretty big deal, not sure why it's not being discussed.

    I talked some of it is "democrat fatigue" because olthey are currently in office, but it can't explain the absolutely massive discrepancy in numbers.

    Like In New Hampshire, approx. 255000 republicans vs. 160000 democrats showed up. Nevada the number was just crazy
    1) This is the primaries

    2) Almost no states are 50/50 R/D so you'd have to look at the most recent non presidential elections to determine if it is a red or blue state. NH is purple and Nevada is red sooooooo your point is pretty invalid unless you have a number of registered voters in each state to supply versus the votes cast for each party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiift View Post
    My guess would be the democrats are fine with who-ever wins.
    Their a more practical bunch.
    Besides didnt they like only do the very conservative states up till now?
    Nevada, New Hampshire and Iowa aren't conservative states. Nevada and Iowa are competitive states and New Hampshire is blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    Nevada, New Hampshire and Iowa aren't conservative states. Nevada and Iowa are competitive states and New Hampshire is blue
    Gallup appears to disagree with you regarding NH.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickmagnus View Post
    I assure you that has literally 0 to do with it. Either of them is still miles ahead of any Republican candidate if you're already more left/center-left. Also communist ties? What is this the 1950s?
    Sanders hung the Russian communist flag up in his office as mayor in the middle of the cold war
    you might not be old enough and didn't learn this in school but communist Russia was a tyrannical murderous government that mass murdered in the tens of millions
    Most Americans know and remember that

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    Thanks for doing the leg work. TLDR for others.

    284k for Republicans in NH vs 250k for Democrats.

    186k for Republicans in Iowa vs 171k for Democrats.
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    really need to make it illegal to skip voting. everyone gets a forced paid day off work, and must vote, or be fined harshly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    Gallup appears to disagree with you regarding NH.

    my mistake looked at the map wrong (N.E. is so small) thanks for the correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    Sanders hung the Russian communist flag up in his office as mayor in the middle of the cold war
    you might not be old enough and didn't learn this in school but communist Russia was a tyrannical murderous government that mass murdered in the tens of millions
    Most Americans know and remember that
    What relevance does that have today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Thanks for doing the leg work. TLDR for others.

    284k for Republicans in NH vs 250k for Democrats.

    186k for Republicans in Iowa vs 171k for Democrats.
    Those are extremely close turnout figures, which kind of blows the thread's premise out of the water.

    But, playing along, GOP primaries have historically always had higher turnout than Democrat primaries; it's why the GOP keeps fielding extremists like Cruz and Ryan while Sanders is the first genuinely-left candidate the Democrats have fielded since FDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRE 9-11 View Post
    Thanks for doing the leg work. TLDR for others.

    284k for Republicans in NH vs 250k for Democrats.

    186k for Republicans in Iowa vs 171k for Democrats.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thage View Post
    Those are extremely close turnout figures, which kind of blows the thread's premise out of the water.

    But, playing along, GOP primaries have historically always had higher turnout than Democrat primaries; it's why the GOP keeps fielding extremists like Cruz and Ryan while Sanders is the first genuinely-left candidate the Democrats have fielded since FDR.
    it isn't amounts it is percentage of turn out compared to previous years to determine which party is more enthused
    and republican in all four states are up percentage rise and democrats are down compared to the recent election years

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