HB 6064: illegitimate children could be denied a birth certificate, financial aid

[Celista]

http://chicagoist.com/2016/02/20/law...n_that_wou.php

Two Republican lawmakers in Illinois have proposed a bill that would deny children who have been born to fathers who cannot be identified a birth certificate and access to financial aid, in the event that a father cannot be identified via DNA evidence.

From the bill:

“Provides that if the unmarried mother cannot or refuses to name the child's father, either a father must be conclusively established by DNA evidence or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named, in court, on the birth certificate. Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family member's name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child.”

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/Bill...ionID=88&GA=99

What is your opinion regarding this piece of legislation?

[unbound]

That's what I love about good Christian lawmakers. Always following Jesus' example doing everything they can to make sure children get nothing!

[Vanyali]

Yeah, it's all about helping the kids! Kids, man.. ahhhhhh.

And men. Because pushing forward legislation that incentivizes women to put the first name that comes to mind won't hurt child support laws at all either.

[Xeones]

Wait what? I thought this was another attack on mexicans but this is targeting loose women and rape victims?

What the fuck republicans?

[Endus]

I don't see what on Earth they're trying to achieve with this, other than an attack on single mothers.

[Independent voter]

If you father a child you have to pay for it's upbringing.

We'll throw you in jail if you father a kid and don't support it.

This is just part of that, name the father and well put him in jail until he pays child support.

Taxpayers don't want to pay to rear your brats.

[Vanyali]

If you father a child you have to pay for it's upbringing.

We'll throw you in jail if you father a kid and don't support it.

This is just part of that, name the father and well put him in jail until he pays child support.

Taxpayers don't want to pay to rear your brats.

Except all this does is push people to throw darts at a wall for kids they don't know the father of and stick someone with payment rather than any of the things you outlined.

[Garnier Fructis]

If you father a child you have to pay for it's upbringing.

We'll throw you in jail if you father a kid and don't support it.

This is just part of that, name the father and well put him in jail until he pays child support.

Taxpayers don't want to pay to rear your brats.

Except that's not what this bill is doing?

[Gorgodeus]

If you father a child you have to pay for it's upbringing.

We'll throw you in jail if you father a kid and don't support it.

This is just part of that, name the father and well put him in jail until he pays child support.

Taxpayers don't want to pay to rear your brats.

If you read the bill closely, you will see that they want to push the cost onto other family members, such as the womans siblings, parents, etc.

[Deleted]

What is the point of such a law? Scare people into not getting illegitimate children, because that has sure as shit not worked the last thousands of years.

[Crissi]

pro life my behind...

I dont see any legit reason to deny a kid their birth certificate. Also, now lets play "who can I name that can possibly be the dad so I wont be screwed by this law" roulette!

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If you read the bill closely, you will see that they want to push the cost onto other family members, such as the womans siblings, parents, etc.

and if they are also in poverty, they wont be able to cover that cost. Or they could, but then require more govt assistance.

[Gorgodeus]

pro life my behind...

I dont see any legit reason to deny a kid their birth certificate. Also, now lets play "who can I name that can possibly be the dad so I wont be screwed by this law" roulette!

Read closely.

or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named

This is really what it is all about. They want to push the cost onto family members, so they can prevent paying welfare, food stamps, etc.

[hydrium]

If you read the bill closely, you will see that they want to push the cost onto other family members, such as the womans siblings, parents, etc.

I'm not seeing the problem?

I'd rather the family pay instead of me.

[Celista]

Also, now lets play "who can I name that can possibly be the dad so I wont be screwed by this law" roulette!

The father has to be conclusively established by DNA evidence. Which could be extremely difficult to obtain, for a variety of reasons.

[unfilteredJW]

This is pretty awful.

[Gorgodeus]

I'm not seeing the problem?

I'd rather the family pay instead of me.

Until your irresponsible daughter, grandaughter, niece etc comes to you wanting you to foot the bill, eh?

[Deleted]

pro life my behind...

I dont see any legit reason to deny a kid their birth certificate. Also, now lets play "who can I name that can possibly be the dad so I wont be screwed by this law" roulette!

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and if they are also in poverty, they wont be able to cover that cost. Or they could, but then require more govt assistance.

I get that, but on the other side...all I read is, if the father won't pay...nobody has to. Which is bullshit. They need to find common ground on this one.

[Crissi]

Read closely.

or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named

This is really what it is all about. They want to push the cost onto family members, so they can prevent paying welfare, food stamps, etc.

and if the family in general is in poverty, this law will help that...how? Hard to pay for others when you can barely pay for yourself.

[Deleted]

Until your irresponsible daughter, grandaughter, niece etc comes to you wanting you to foot the bill, eh?

That's kinda what family is for, helping you out of stupid shit you've done.

[Deleted]

Okay, I can get wanting to push the cost onto someone, but what is up with not wanting to give a birth certificate?